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Man, thank you so much. Over the last 8 months, I have gone through the same list of actions to try to fix my idle and clattering problems. I actually replaced my DVs with pre-owned ones that I thought were good. I assumed DVs were not available anymore so I thought this was the best I could do. They actually looked fine. I ordered the DVs and Springs from the links above and my problem appears to be solved. By the way, there are two versions of DVs for the OM617, the ones I received were the updated version. The site is in England, so it took a couple of weeks to arrive. Thank you again for the links. I had tried everything! Happy New Year! |
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Post a new video of it running smooth
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Updating this thread since I thought my problem was solved when I replaced the delivery valves, but unfortunately the shaking idle still remains
Since my last post, I've put in a rebuilt injection pump from Yankee Diesel and injectors from greazzer on this forum, which also hasn't solved the problem. Here's an updated video showing very clearly the rough idle https://youtu.be/4inl01uWoEw Check post #1 for a list of what I've tried so far. Please help me solve this mystery!
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Appears to be injection pump rack oscillations, to test push down slowly on stop lever
if engine smooths that"s it. What to try: make sure linkages are not holding pump off of rest position. Rack damper not strong enough, grind locking nut to half width, make sure does not keep pump from returning to rest. Problem is in pump,not the first one,that"s why Mbz Came up with the damper! |
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The rack damper did not work on all pumps, and if you received a rebuilt that it did not
work on Guess What! YA you got it, jumpy idle,not not a condition rebuilder can test. |
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Keep the tips coming! I'll try it all. It's hard to look good for my date in a classic car when it shakes like a paint shaker at every red light
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Yes, I know about the date thing, my 300sd does not shake, lucky me you would think,
worked on Mbz for many years, have never seen one like mine, ENGINE jumps up and down. What a ride! |
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Just remembered, there is a valve in the pipe connection between the injection pump
and fuel line to injector, called Relief Orifice, said to stop fuel back pulses from reopening injector. If defective could cause smoking (fuel injected at wrong time), is it also possible that engine noise and idle quality could be affected? |
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So many of these threads appear to be solved by doing something or other to the rack damper.
Wonder why these weren’t included on the om616 pumps… Feel like I could use one.
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The delivery valve is under the relief orifice, name given by Mbz.
616 engines did not have the rock and roll problem, came about with the turbo engines, according to Mercedes. |
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I’ve taken those pipe fittings off many times. In order, there’s a crush washer, a delivery valve assembly (plunger and barrel) a spring, and the pipe fitting itself. I’m not sure which part is the “relief orifice.” Do you have a part number?
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Above the delivery valve spring inside the pipe fitting, not replaceable that I know of.
Possible with pipe fitting? Mercedes said that they do sometimes fail. |
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I worked in a fuel injection shop for 5 years in part rebuilding Fuel Injection Pumps, and I know what the parts are called here in the US and I also have a fair idea what our members call a lot of the parts. US parts sellers also sometimes have different names for the same part. Rack Damper Pin Equals Governor Idle Pin depending on the seller. Since the fuel injection pumps in this case are made by Bosch it may be Bosch has entirely different names for their parts compared to the Mercedes names.
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