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Old 03-23-2022, 02:18 PM
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Perfect thanks...and it seems to be a Bit cheaper than the crazy prices out here for diesel.

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Old 03-23-2022, 02:51 PM
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Perfect thanks...and it seems to be a Bit cheaper than the crazy prices out here for diesel.
Good news at the pump, bad news at the Supermarket, renewable diesel has more than doubled the cost of cooking oil. Im not a beleiver that we should burn our food for fuel.
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:01 PM
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Do you have a source for that?

Because unless you’re cooking with:

animal fat from food industry waste
used cooking oil
vegetable oil processing waste and residues (e.g., palm fatty acid distillate, spent bleaching earth oil, palm effluent sludge)
fish fat from fish processing waste
tall oil based raw materials
technical corn oil (a residue from ethanol production)
palm oil
rapeseed oil
soybean oil

In other words, feedstock oils, the price of crisco or olive oil is unaffected.
The best I could find was that since 2016, the aforementioned have risen 2% year over year
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Old 03-23-2022, 03:46 PM
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But does cooking oil go into this propel fuel?
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:07 PM
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Im not a beleiver that we should burn our food for fuel.
Agree 100%. I'll "bite my tongue", here, however.
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Old 03-24-2022, 12:06 AM
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Do you have a source for that?

Because unless you’re cooking with:

animal fat from food industry waste
used cooking oil
vegetable oil processing waste and residues (e.g., palm fatty acid distillate, spent bleaching earth oil, palm effluent sludge)
fish fat from fish processing waste
tall oil based raw materials
technical corn oil (a residue from ethanol production)
palm oil
rapeseed oil
soybean oil

In other words, feedstock oils, the price of crisco or olive oil is unaffected.
The best I could find was that since 2016, the aforementioned have risen 2% year over year
Propel HPR is currently being produced from multiple triglyceride sources, animal fats, restaurant grease, palm oil, and basically anything they can get their hands on. In this country they are standong up new renewable diesel refineries as fast as they can get them built at a cost of over 250 million dollars each. See below a link the Supply/Demand or Soybean Oil for the 2021/ 2022 Crop year

https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/wasde0322.pdf

Go down to page 15 and you will see that over 42% of the total US Soybean Oil production is being diverted to Biofuels, over 10.7 billion pounds or almost 1.4 billion gallons. all destined for California, Wahington, and Oregon , the only three states with Clean Fuel Mandates. My objection is not with net carbon zero fuels but with the idea of taking it away from the dinner table. Tons of research is underway to produce Biofuels from algae but it's going to take time and a massive investment in infrastructure. I doubt that we have the Political will to do it.
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Old 03-25-2022, 08:31 PM
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Bio-diesel and cooking oil

Cooking oil is much too expensive to use for making automotive fuel. Not that it can’t be used, but the refiners, like business people anywhere, want to use the least expensive feedstock available.

Here in Northern California, Union 76 stations are selling a product called “Renewable Diesel.” Like the others mentioned, it’s made from non-petroleum oils. It acts just like petroleum-based Diesel fuel; I use it in both of my 606-engined cars as well as my new-to-me ‘05 CDI.

I’ve been told the Chevron stations in this area will soon be selling a similar product. Prices are the same as for petroleum-based Diesel fuel, that is, “too much” at the moment.

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