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1986 190d 2.5 w/ 106k..good car??
Hello All,
After I sold my 240d a few months ago, (and, having attended the NW diesel meet last month!), I have had the irrisistable urge to get another MB Diesel... I have the opporunity to pick up a *MINT* (and i mean Mint) 1986 white 190d, 2.5/Auto, with only 106k documented, 1-owner miles (with maintenence records!).. I'd like you guy's opinion on this model year 190d- I am going back to the seller this weekend, to test drive the car and give it a better look-over (I had only briefly visited it on a lunch-break a few days ago). I think i might be able to snag this one for a good price.. ,but i'd like to hear other 190d owners (or people familiar with this car).. i'm just looking for something reliable w/ good gas milage. is the 2.5 more powerful than the older 2.2 diesel?? Thanks all! -Miles (Former 240d owner)
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I owned an 86 190D 2.5 with a 5 speed manual for about 5 years and 130K miles.
The car was pretty much trouble free. The only items I remembered changing were the glow plugs, cruise control module and a clutch at 164K. The car would average 40-43 MPG in mostly highway driving. The 2.5's have 90 HP. It was not a slug but you were not going to win any drag races with it. The 190 series has gotten lots of bad press over the years. I've owned 2 examples of the 201 body and had great luck with both of them. Tim |
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THis is the best year for a 190D. Least emissions "stuff" and the 2.5 l engine. It is a wonderful car with the 5-speed, but the auto is a little slow. I have a buddy with an '86 having about 190kmi. They made some great strides between 84 and 86 (and I love the 84's).
While they have a relatively bad reputation, I prefer my 190 D over the 84 SD and 83 300D that are also in the garage (my signature only identifies my daily driver). I prefer the 60x engines (after having worked on both). I prefer the updated interior as well, and the updated suspension.
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Jovan '84 (11/83) 190D 2.2 5-Speed; Silver/Blue; Motor No. 00354, 402k mi (340+kmi mine) '89 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe; Black/Black; 53kmi '05 BMW 530i 6-Speed; 302kmi '19 Range Rover; 30kmi |
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You prefer the 190D over an SD or 300D ?????? Are you sniffin' paint?
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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions) '08 Chevy Tahoe '93 Ducati 900 SS '79 Kawasaki KZ 650 '86 Kawasaki KX 250 '88 Kawasaki KDX200 '71 Hodaka Ace 100 '72 Triumph T100R |
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I've got all three, and I might be sniffing paint, but I love the 190.
On long hauls I like the additional size of the SD, but for my daily commute (80-100 miles) my favorite is the 190D. This is not to say that I do not love the others. The SD is a great car, as is the 300D. I much prefer the 60x engines as opposed to the 617 because of less maintenance and because of better fuel economy (just make sure it does not overheat). I have worked on the 617 and the 60x extensively, and it is just my personal opinion. Also, the 190D was the first one I purchased, and I have put the most miles on the 190D. It may be that it is just a sentimental favorite. (in 13 years and over a quarter million miles, the car has never let me down). Just my .02.
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Jovan '84 (11/83) 190D 2.2 5-Speed; Silver/Blue; Motor No. 00354, 402k mi (340+kmi mine) '89 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe; Black/Black; 53kmi '05 BMW 530i 6-Speed; 302kmi '19 Range Rover; 30kmi |
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I bought an '87 190D 2.5 auto a couple of months ago. I love it, although it gets ~32 mpg average.
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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Glad to hear some good feedback! i think I will definetly check out the car tomorrow, in more detail. My gut feeling tells me that this is a really good car. Any areas i should check on it in particular? Are the 190's prone to any particular problems?? Are these engines any quieter than the older 617/ w123 diesels??
Thanks!, Miles
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I own a 190D 2.5, automatic.
Let me put it this way. If you don't buy this car, tell me the contact information. I am almost sure I want it, as long as there are no surprises.
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MB 1986 190D in my past MB 1987 300E on the street MB 1994 'Smoke Silver' E420 in my driveway 1999 Mazda Miata in the fun stable 1964 E-Type Jaguar Coupe- Sold 1970 E-Type Jaguar Coupe- Sold 1968 Corvair Monza Conv. with Turbo Transplant- Sold 1986 Merkur Xr4ti- abandoned various mundane American autos If I'd known then what I know now... Hell, I'd probably still have done it anyways. |
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