Diesel Haters? - Page 5 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Gil · #61 12-14-2002, 12:32 AM

Hey, Vokl142:

Why don't you drop by their dorm room early one morning, when they're all still passed out, and leave a similar note on the fronts of their well-used bongs? "Thanks for killing the planet by burning up the weed, man!" or something similar. It'd make about as much scientific sense as targeting autos.

It's easy for someone to pat themselves on the back with covert attack-note campaigns on car windshields.

I'd like to see if any one of those delusional utopians can go for 24 hours without using ANY fossil fuels, diretly or indirectly. I don't mean ride a bike instead of the bus. Forget that, as you still need fossil fuels to make the bike! How about foregoing the use of plastics, nylon, steel, medical services, printed matter, any and all machinery other than hand crafted tools from the stone age, etc. for a full and complete 24 hours, just to see if they can do it.

It can't be done, especially not by collegiate suburbanites with no survival skills in the first place. Fossil fuels, including diesels, are here to stay. Don't worry, you're right, THEY'RE wrong.

Gil

lorenztl · #62 01-07-2003, 12:49 AM

This really is a reflection of junk science being taught to the ignorant in our government schools who know not how to think and are very good parrots.
Much of what is learned in college must be unlearned in living.

If these zealots were really serious about their "faith" they would be walking barefoot without any use of the benefits of the fruits of science utililized today. We are not writing about a rational, principled people.

-Expect ignorance in these places. Let's DIESEL!-Tom

The Warden · #63 01-07-2003, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AndrewK
These peope need to get their priorites straight and go harass a truck manufacturer w/ their 14 liter diesels or a coal power plant, and quit worrying about some 240D!

Umm...you're forgetting something here. Take a look around your kitchen, in your refrigerator, your closet, etc. Look at what's inside of each. Food, clothes, etc. How did they get to be where you put them? You most likely bought them from a retail store. How did the store get the items that you bought? In nearly all cases, they were delivered by a truck powered by that very 14 litre engine that you're complaining about. Some of that stuff may have originated overseas, in which case they were put on a ship that's powered by a diesel engine that makes the 14 litre engine look like a chainsaw motor. Trains aren't much better than the ships, and they have a very fixed route.

Were it not for these modes of transportation, either you wouldn't have that stuff, or it would have cost you so much money that you either wouldn't have very much of it or wouldn't be able to buy much else.

Just my $.02...

I have a bumper sticker on my car's rear window that reads "Without trucking, America stops". I have yet to see any logical reason to prove that wrong.

#64 01-08-2003, 10:43 PM

I certainly did not mean to imply that trucking was unimportant, but the trucking industry has been trying to sidestep emmisions reductions for years. Perhaps if they had just complied in the first place it would be less costly than paying all of those lawyers to fight it.

TTaM · #65 01-09-2003, 01:41 AM

Wow, this has been a long lasting thread. To all those who were concerned, the 240D is now at home in the garage, happily out of the midwest road salt. My current car is a Volvo 740 Turbo Wagon. Got a deal on it that I couldn't pass up. The 240D is safe.

rwthomas1 · #66 01-09-2003, 02:48 PM

great! now all you need is a bumper sticker for the Volvo saying "My other car is a Mercedes Benz DIESEL"

whunter · #67 01-04-2006, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volkl42

My car, as well as a few other on campus have caused quite a stir. I go to a small liberal arts school in Central Illinois w/ a student population of about 2000. Recently I have been getting notes put on my car saying "Thanks for poluting the earth w/ your exhaust." And "With all the money you spent on a Benz, why not buy a clean car?" This is starting to irk me. There are a few other diesel owners on campus I know and have talked to, but only the Mercedes ones have been tageted. [The others drive VWs that say TDI on the rear as opposed to Diesel.] The funny thing is my car barely smokes and there are some truly ratty cars on campus doing much more damage than mine. Plus, I find it almost humorous that my car is targeted when it was parked inbetween a Land Rover and ML55 [I wish my mommy and daddy could buy me such cars]. I think their fuel consumption should be an issue too, but oh well. We have notified campus security, but little will come of that. I am actually considering parking off campus now at a great cost just to avoid vandalism. Anyone else experience such problems. No one gave me problems when I drove and old Bronco II that leaked oil everywhere and drank gas like an old salt drinks whiskey. I will stop ranting now. I need to get to bed

I got a nasty note on my car today...

Threw it in a puddle, and ran over it.

TTaM · #68 01-04-2006, 11:06 PM

Holy thread re-revival

t walgamuth · #69 01-04-2006, 11:26 PM

that people should mind their own business.

but hey! whats wrong with hugging trees? they give us oxygen.

fuel effeciency and safer emmissions. diesels are green.

tom w

#70 01-05-2006, 03:06 AM

Yeah I am consdering rocking a sticker somewhere along the lines of "Even when my car is emitting smoke, its still better for the environment than your POS so **** off."

But I am a very angry person when it comes to people giving me grief about how "dirty" my car is. If I had someone posting stickers all over my car they would be finding themselves the recipiant of my gerber hatchet in the trunk.

Ever seen uncle buck?

Red Pike · #71 01-05-2006, 08:48 AM

and I went back to school at age 40 to get my engineering degree, so I could design and build Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) power plants. I am against drilling in ANWR and building more nuclear power plants, and extremists on both the right and left.

I am against drilling in ANWR, not because I don't believe it CAN be done with minimal environmental impact, rather I feel putting the money into renewable technologies is more cost effective in the long run. I am against nuclear power plants because of the life-cycle environmental issues (mine tailings, spent nuclear fuel disposal), not because the plants themselves can't be operated safely (I KNOW better, I used to operate Navy nuclear submarines).

I work on commercial ships because nobody is hiring OTEC designers right now: and, besides the need to earn a (good) living, ships are the most efficient (miles per ton of fuel per ton of cargo) means of moving goods today. I also enjoy working on multi-million dollar. highly efficient, diesel power propulsion plants and steam propulsion plants (haven't had the chance to work on the gas turbine plants, yet, but am looking forward to...someday). I also like the freedom that sailing as an engineering officer on commercial, U.S. flagged, vessels affords me; at or close to 30 days vacation for 30 days worked (usually a little over 90 days at a shot).

Another argument to use against those vandals targeting your MB diesel (if you get the chance to speak to them, or write that editorial for your school/local newspaper) is to do a little life-cycle cost analysis and environmental impact of a 20 year old MB diesel v. a gasser muscle car or SUV that only lasts 10 years and gets half the fuel economy

87tdwagen · #72 01-05-2006, 11:20 AM

Tree-huggers, wish I could send them straight to the mill, but unfortunately since they usually are spineless, they'll make crappy building material...

Seriously though, while out in the great state of hippocracy, CA, there were truckloads of these weekender tree huggers, driving their fat laden SUV's polluting the heck out of the place so they could go tie a yellow ribbon around a redwood. Yea, yippy, save the tree former hippie, kill 10 more on your drive for your afternoon latte.

So I guess these types feel righteous, tied a ribbon, saved a tree now they can go on polluting in good conscious and belittle all others who didn't join the ribbon tying ceremony.

I am an environmentalist, thus I drive old diesels, I don't believe in the disposable car mantra, and I really hate hippocracy. Tell those environmentalists you got a yellow ribbon for them in the form of a noose stashed in the trunk of your MB...wanna try it on?

OMEGAMAN · #73 01-05-2006, 11:40 AM

Is'nt it amassing how they cant seem to figure out who drives the diesel benz? Why dont they come and talk to you face to face about the supposed damage to the planet. It does seem like a pretty important issue if it were true and warrant a little more than a note taped on a window. I think they are just cowards or maybe affraid of you since they may be pale and week from the vegen life style and smoking dope.
Ever wondered if you could do a stick up in a health food store with your bare hands?