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Old 03-19-2003, 05:17 PM
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Cooling System Service Questions

Greetings Forumites,
I'll be doing cooling system PM service on the fleet ('84 300D, '83 300TD) in the near future and need to know what is safe to use for flush and fill and what is not.

All hoses will be replaced on these two vehicles at this time and the obvious thing to do then is a proper flush and fill. The message that I get is anything other than MB coolant will kill my radiators.

What should I use for a flush?
What should I use for replacement coolant?
Is there any other maintenance that I should be thinking about doing?

Best wishes to all. Without this forum, I wouldn't be the hero that I am to SWMBO and her 300D! And, I wouldn't own TWO of the finest vehicles ever built.

Cheers,
Randy Leo


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Old 03-19-2003, 05:44 PM
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First is a citric acid flush then a dish washing soap flush.

I go with MB coolant but this subject to very spirited debate.

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:48 PM
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Make that two de-oiling flushes (5% mildly alkaline solution) then a citric acid flush (10% solution). Completely flush with water between flushes.

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:51 PM
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There's also Redline Water Wetter and minimal coolant, no more than 25% I think. You can run Water Wetter with a 50-50 mix but the benefits of Water Wetter go out the window when there's a lot of coolant... or so says Redline.

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Old 03-19-2003, 06:53 PM
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Question Brands or brew your own?

Sixto,
This may sound crazy but, are there over-the-counter alkaline and acid flushes available or do you have to brew your own?

Any particular brands that you've had success with?

It ain't right but, I ran my last car over 130,000 miles and never bothered to flush the cooling system. Never had any problems either.

I despised working on that car and consequently, I did as little as humanly possible to it...


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Old 03-19-2003, 07:48 PM
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Try the dealer for citric acid. The part number is 000 989 10 25. I've never used it. I don't know if it comes with mixing instructions. The manual says 100g/l.

I've read of folks using dishwashing soap as a de-oiler. I doubt there's anything in dishwashing soap that's harmfull to the innards of a 617 even at full strength.

I've only used 2-3 flushes with tap water. It comes out clean enough that I don't feel the need to do more.

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Old 03-19-2003, 07:57 PM
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Hey Randy,

Off-topic here for a moment: You have the same color wagon as I do - it's only the second time I've seen one! Seems pretty rare...

Anyway, how's you're paint holding up on the hood and roof? I have a feeling that the maroon paint 'gives up' quicker than some other colors.
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Old 03-19-2003, 08:33 PM
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Maroon Paint

Joe,
Sorry to dissapoint you but that paint looks that good because it's only about 2 years old. I don't know the exact age of the paint because I've only been with Marlene about a month now.

Whoever had it done must have paid a mint for the job because it is absolutely one of the best repaint jobs I've ever seen on a car.

She was originally maroon so the fender wells and doors all match. And, other than some old seat problems and the carpet fading in the back, she's in great shape.

I'm really worried about fading too...so, I'm in the process of clearing out my garage and making a place for Marlene and SWMBOs 300D.

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Old 03-19-2003, 08:50 PM
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I agree about using the MB citric acid flush. Be careful though, it is VERY CAUSTIC! DO NOT get any on your skin!! Buy a jar of the powder from the MB dealer and it will last you years. Then flush the system out with clean water and refill with 50/50 MB coolant and water.
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:09 PM
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Thanks to all.

Sixto, Aaron,
Thanks for all the information. I knew I could count on you guys.

R
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Old 03-20-2003, 01:44 AM
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it says use a 10% solution of citric acid (100g/l) in the service manual (20-015 under the engine section on the CD) to flush it out. I used it and used only 5% and it still did pretty darn good

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