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Old 04-14-2003, 02:52 PM
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What's she worth - my 1987 300TDT?

Hey all,

I know you-all have lot's of opinions, here's your chance to share some of them. I'm thinking of selling my 1987 wagon and moving into a somewhat newer people hauler. I really don't know what it's worth - care to share your thoughts on the matter? Edmunds and KBB give values of $3.5K-$4.0K, but they go for more than that on Ebay with no records and unknown milage.

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1987 300TDT wagon. 128K miles. Dallas car all it's life - no rust. Good books & records, but not 100% complete. All original paint looks very good, no accidents nor bodywork. Could stand a visit from the paintless dent guy, and a new rear bumper impact strip, but that's about the worst of it. Most folks think it's 3-4 years old.

Interior is about the same - quite good, but not quite excellent. No major problems. Seats have been treated and redyed with Leatherique, but passenger seat does show some cracking in the leather. Wood is OK, does show some stress cracks but no major problems. Carpets, headliner, dash are all like new.

Drivetrain is strong - this is a very good running OM603. Trans shifts just right. No funny noises, no oddities - it really goes when you step on it. Delivers about 25MPG city, 30 highway. All service is current, including coolant and brake fluid. Had 120K service at 120K, imagine that!

Quite a few details attended to - new accumulators 3 years ago, new hatch struts, shifter bushings, clock repaired, pads/rotors/hoses/parking brake all around - that kind of thing.

Suspension is all original, but for sway bar bushings and the aforementioned accumulators.

Right now the a/c is out, but everything else works - cruise, all windows, central locks, power antenna, etc. (Something failed on the high side of the a/c and dumped the charge just this past weekend. Probably either an o-ring or the manifold hose.)

So, my question - How much would you pay for this car? How much of a deduction for the non-functioning a/c? How much would joe-average-public pay, as opposed to you gurus of the 124 chassis that reside on this board?

- JimY

Oh yeah, it's white over palomino leather, has the sunroof and third seat.

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Old 04-14-2003, 04:02 PM
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Waaah! I don't know what your car is worth, but it sounds like exactly what I was looking for for the past six months. Just bought one a few weeks ago, however (yours sounds nicer). Actually we bought 2, but that's another story.

Why don't you try an ebay auction? Set it at whatever the 'least' you would sell for is, then anything over that is gravy.

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Old 04-15-2003, 12:18 AM
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I am sure it is worth at least $6,000, if it is in almost perfect condition.
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Old 04-15-2003, 12:52 AM
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I agree with 123c. There is an element of rarity here too, as this model was only produced for 1 year.

I would never buy a car on ebay for several reasons I won't go into here, but you should be able to get at least 6K for it there. People overpay for cars when bidding, it seems.

What is wrong with the AC?

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The one's I've been seeing arre, perfect condition $7500.

Without working A/C there is a lot of play room. What was the last charge in the system R-12, R134a

I'd seriously consider a wagon, even w/out A/C - what color is it?


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Old 04-15-2003, 10:26 AM
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Hey, slow down a minute! I'm not even sure it's for sale. Looks like I've missed out on the car I was interested in (starmarked '95 wagon at the local dealer).

The car's white; it looks like a refrigerator or something.

Spent a few minutes investigating the a/c last evening. Looks like the compressor shaft seal failed. Guess it's Nippondenso time again.

Sounds like, should I decide to sell it, I should start at about $8K (assuming the a/c is fixed). I'd figure perhaps a $1500 deduction for the broken a/c unit.

- JimY
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Old 04-15-2003, 10:32 AM
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Okay, okay But white and silver are my favorite colors
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Old 04-15-2003, 02:46 PM
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The prices mentioned are reasonable, assuming the A/C is adjusted for. However the big question is the cylinder head. I'd want the infamous "cold high pressure syndrome" tested for. If it passes with flying colors, then I think you'll have a lot of people interested. If it fails, knock off a few thousand more...


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Old 04-24-2003, 03:59 PM
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Just a quick followup.

The a/c problem turned out to be (mostly) a failed o-ring where the manifold attaches to the compressor. The front shaft seal was leaking just a bit, so I replaced that as well. (Thanks McCains!) About four hours labor to R&R the compressor, replace the shaft seal, vacuum, and charge. Twenty bucks later it blows so cold that people complain about it!

So I've decided not to sell it, at least for the time being. Got a highway speed vibration problem to chase down, then the drivers seat needs rebuilding. Then I'll be out of projects

- JimY

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