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Old 06-06-2003, 09:26 AM
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Maintenance/Repair Manuals-Which is Best?

Hey All,

Pardon this newbie as I have only owned my '84 300SD for two weeks now. But what I lack for in experience I certainly more than make up for with enthusiam as I spend most waking moments wanting to be behind the wheel of my "Hildegard".

I do want to get cracking on getting a good maintenance/repair manual. Definitely I want something that shows the full schematic of the car and what to unscrew to get to yada yada yada.

I am no ASE mechanic, but I can do some things and have a strong desire to learn more.

That being said, what is the best way to go in terms of buying a repair manual?

Thanks.

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Old 06-06-2003, 06:24 PM
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you can get a Haynes Manual at your local Pep Boys or Autozone.


Also, you can get the Factory service manuals on CD
MB Tech Manuals from MBUSA cost $19.99 plus S&H
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to get the actual paper ones you have to call MBUSA directly.
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Old 06-06-2003, 06:42 PM
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The only Haynes manual that will be somewhat helpful is the one for the 300D. Or is there a Haynes manual for the 300SD?

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Old 06-06-2003, 06:49 PM
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it's only for the w123.


Sorry I didn't notice that it was an SD you were looking for. I'd imagine that the Haynes manual might help a little in regard to the Engine and such.
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Old 06-06-2003, 07:41 PM
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Haynes W123 Manual - Use With Caution

The Haynes book for the diesel 123 is barely adequate. I would recommend it only as a parts location reference document.

— no procedure documented for checking timing chain stretch

— the photos for the valve clearance adjustment imply that every day open end wrenches are adequate for this job (you might be able to do the front 4 cylinders but that last one is darned hard even with the gin-yooo-wine Hazet wrenches)

— many graphics captions are ambiguously positioned so that it is difficult to determine which graphic goes with what caption

— photos illustrating the drip timing procedure are mirror imaged

OTOH, the chapter on chassis electrical is reasonbly OK for understanding how to dissasemble the car's interior components.

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Old 06-06-2003, 07:56 PM
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Well said, the haynes manual is barely adequate. Though
I have an SD many things apply to both models and they
are simply not covered. I was able to adjust the valves
with two 14mm open end wrenches though, I guess when
everything seems difficult the real difficulties don't stand
out?
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Old 06-06-2003, 10:26 PM
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I called MB about manuals and they told me all they offer is on cd no paper manuals.

MB Tech Manuals from MBUSA cost $19.99 plus S&H
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Old 06-07-2003, 01:16 AM
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BJ,

What's in the hardcopy manuals that's no in the CD? Besides a proper index.

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Old 06-07-2003, 10:29 AM
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The Haynes manuals (for most cars) are a little better than nothing....

The factory service manuals, even though they assume the reader has received some MB training are far superior. I was lucky and bought the full set long before they went to CDs.

As a matter of course, I buy factory manuals for every vehicle I own. Some get used a little more than others, but most of my questions can be answered somewhere in them. The hardest to find was the manual for the 280SL.

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Old 06-07-2003, 05:18 PM
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I've got the paper manuals for the 108 car and the official MB CD-ROM for the 201 car.
I certanly admit that the pics in the paper manuals (purchased on ebay) are better, but the official MB CD-ROM is really good and absolutely complete. If I were wanting to maintain any of these cars myself, I'd get the CD.

MB Tech Manuals from MBUSA cost $19.99 plus S&H
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