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Old 06-09-2003, 02:32 AM
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300TD What should I check?

I've been looking at 300TD's to buy. I know I should look out for rust, and smoke. But, what else should I be checking? I know these cars feature the self leveling system, how does it work, what exactly is it for, and what should I be looking for besides leaking fluid from the suspension.

Please Mention any other tips, Thanks in Advance

P.S. I did use the search but didn't find much.
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Old 06-09-2003, 08:44 AM
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300CD79.

The self levelling system consists of a hydraulic fluid reservoir and an engine driven pump, hoses and hard tubing as required to route the hydraulic fluid, a valve and mechanical lever to sense when the suspension is compressed or extended, and position the valve to either pump the system up or lower it in response, a pair of spheres pressurized with Nitrogen on one side of a membrane, the other side is connected to the hydraulic fluid system, and some hydraulic cylinders (one at each rear wheel).

When the engine is running there is a source of pressurized hydraulic oil at the control valve (mounted between the rear suspension and the car's body). If the car is loaded down the valve is openned so flow can go from the pressurized source to the hydraulic cylinders and raise the car. If it is high the valve bleeds fluid off and returns it to the reservoir. If the car is just right the valve sends the fluid back to the reservoir.

The Nitrogen pressurized spheres serve as the receptacle for fluid when the suspension compresses due to dynamic driving loads (the pump and control valve are not fast enough nor are they intended to provide responses in the times needed for wheel position/response to road irregularities and chassis responses to driving inputs) and a source on the return stroke of the cylinder. If this component fails the sphere fills with fluid and then there is no place for the fluid to go when the rear wheel wants to move relative to the body. The car bounces and drives very poorly over bumps.

Since the system is "solid" except for the spheres, adding fluid to the system volume forces the hydraulic cylinders to extend to make room. This lifts the car.

The most common things to fail are hydraulic lines, the hydraulic cylinders at the wheels (look a little like shock absorbers) and the spheres. I have only recently heard of the pumps failing. The fluid must be MB's product or all bets are off. The fluid is often neglected and left to turn dark brown. It is a light gold color when new and should be changed regularly, along with the filter in the reservoir.

So, look for signs of leaking, push down on the rear end of the car on each side and look for normal shock absorber type responses, and look to see the car is level with no rear end load and with 3 or 4 people sitting on the rear bumper with their feet in the air.

I do not own a 300TD so I cannot answer many more questions. I think rust is the biggest issue for these cars and you have that covered. The suspension system is the next biggest issue as I see a lot of them driving around dragging their rear ends, and the system is often a topic on this forum.

So, good luck and I hope this helps. Jim
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Old 06-09-2003, 10:13 AM
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An easily missed place to watch for rust on the wagons is under the battery tray on the firwall... on a turbo it is not easy to see the area... acid eats all the way through many times.. not an easy fix.... not impossible either....
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Old 06-09-2003, 12:20 PM
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Thanks

The information so far has allowed me gain a better understanding of the self leveling system, most thanks to "JimSmith".

Please reply if there are any other common problems among 300TD's and ways to check them.
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