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Old 07-02-2003, 02:43 PM
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300TD or 300SD for daughter?

My daughter will be 15 in a month. I was considering a 85 diesel. What are the advantages of each-mid size vs S class? Were there any changes 82 to 85 that would make one year more desirable?
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:53 PM
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How about a 240?

Great starter car. You won't have to worry about speeding tickets in that!

A kid in my neighborhood (who just graduated magna cum laude from the University of Chicago) had an old 240 and said it was the coolest car among any of his friends. he was a real reto-kid---acutally got rid of the newer rims infavor of the old wheel covers with the Star on them that matched the color of the car.
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:53 PM
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The TD is the wagon... but it does not sound like you were using it that way... however, the wagon would be great if she did not consider it " old fashioned"... it is very sturdy...
One item I think that is different is the 85 turbo... a different setup than the other years,,, not that that is bad, but may be harder to find a replacement for .. but MB turbos do not go bad often ( if you keep oil going to them and idle the engine a couple of minutes after hard driving before turning off )
I loved my 81 wagon... nothing like it for SOLID out on the highway.. and it got 27 mpg....
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Old 07-02-2003, 02:57 PM
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I did not mean wagon TDT. I meant 123? style-midsize 4 door.
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:07 PM
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My wife and I got our 82 300D Turbo for our son who just turned 15 this past March and is driving this to learn with on his permit. From what I have read on here the SD would be a larger more solid ride than the regular turbo diesel but it has turbo also. As for the size our son likes the 300D since it is smaller and easier for him to park, manuever, back-up, ect... . IMO either one would be a perfect choice for your daughter.
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:30 PM
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Without a doubt - 300D - 1983 to 1985. Save the 300SD for yourself.
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Old 07-02-2003, 03:43 PM
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The SDs were improved over time. An alarm was added, central locking from the passenger side and trunk was added, ABS was optional, power headrests were added, etc. I don't think an airbag was available in the SD.

I don't think the Ds changed as much as the SDs.

All 85 MB Diesels have more complicated emissions control, a single year design transmission and California (or western?) cars would have been delivered with the dreaded trap oxidizer.

As a DIYer, I'd pick an 84 over an 85 if everything else was equal.

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We just bought in May a 1982 300D for my son Josh, a Jr in college. He loves it!

I think the SD is a more stately sedan. Not sure a young person would appreciate the size or styling as much as the 300D.

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Old 07-02-2003, 05:31 PM
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300D's are nice!

I vote for the 300D since my wife drives one....reliable car, cheep price, parts are cheep too, solid build, steel bumpers, 25+ MPG.....
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Old 07-02-2003, 05:37 PM
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Both of my W123's have the "central locking" including the trunk.
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Old 07-02-2003, 06:29 PM
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Both of my W123's have the "central locking" including the trunk.
Really? If you put the key in the passenger's side door or the trunk and turn the key, every door unlocks?

If I unlock the driver's door on mine, all the doors and the trunk unlock (and the alarm is disarmed), but if I unlock the passenger's door, it only unlocks itself...same with the trunk...
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Old 07-02-2003, 06:36 PM
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All 85 MB Diesels have more complicated emissions control, a single year design transmission and California (or western?) cars would have been delivered with the dreaded trap oxidizer.

As a DIYer, I'd pick an 84 over an 85 if everything else was equal.
Really? I thought that federal emissions '85's were the same as '84's. Ya learn something new every day.

One other difference between '85 and earlier diesels that to me is a big positive, is the rear end. Turbo 123 300D's between '82 and '84 had a 3.07 gear ratio, while '85's have a 2.82 (or something like that) gear ratio. This means that, whiel the car may be a bit slower off the line, it'll turn at lower RPM's on the freeway, and will thus likely get slightly better mileage.

I actually didn't know that 'till I got my car, but now I'm happy I did instead of getting an earlier model.

Also, I don't think that the cental locking was ever brought to the passenger's side door or to the trunk on a 123 car (it started with the 124's), and alarms were rare even on '85 123's...I've got a factory alarm on my car, and don't know of anyone else on this board with one on a 123. I do'nt think ABS, an air bag, or the power headrests were ever offered on a 123. BTW, I think that air bags were offered on '85 300SD's, but was a very rare option.

I've never driven a 300SD, but I think that the car larger and more refined, but the 300D has more character.
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why not let your daughter choose? she'll take more pride and take better care of a car that she likes. just a thought,
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Old 07-02-2003, 11:34 PM
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The Warden, your definition of 'central locking' may be different from Mercedes Benz.... ... what Jim describes is what MB considers ' central locking'....my 240d has it and the 81 wagon did also....
What you are describing would be ' central UNLOCKING ' ... which it does do from the driver door but not the others...
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I've never tried to unlock my car from the trunk or the passenger side. I thought unlocking everything from the drivers door was central locking.

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