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P.E.Haiges 09-04-2003 08:28 PM

616/617 Engines
 
What is the difference between the 616 and 617 Diesel engines?

P E H

kerry 09-04-2003 08:47 PM

One. (cylinder that that is)

240Demon 09-05-2003 01:37 AM

616 = 4 cylinder Used in 240D

617= 5 Cylinder

P.E.Haiges 09-05-2003 12:08 PM

But the OM616 is a non turbo, right, so its more than 1 cylinder different than a OM617.
OK, so what is the designation of a non turbo 5 cylinder engine such as used in a 300D?

P E H

Joe Blowe 09-05-2003 12:47 PM

is this an open book quiz?

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/6633/w123engine.html

kerry 09-05-2003 01:04 PM

The differences between the turbo and non-turbo 617 are found in the numbers that come after 617. eg, 617.xxx
Which numbers designate which engine model I don't know but there are more differences between 617's than just the turbo. For instance, the 617 they put in vans, has a different number than the 617 they put in cars, even though they were both non-turbo. For instance, the earlier 617 in the 115's had a different water pump than later 617's in the 123's.

Beagle 09-05-2003 03:00 PM

617 912 ***** is non-turbo 300D.

kerry 09-05-2003 11:03 PM

A non-turbo 300d in a 115 chassis would be a 617.910 and not a 617.912.

joshhol 09-06-2003 02:05 PM

Kerry,
What would a 617.912 go into, a 123?

I just bought a factory 615, 616, 617.91 engine manual off ebay.
I hope it will correspond to my 1976 300D.
Thanks

Joe Blowe 09-06-2003 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joshhol
What would a 617.912 go into, a 123?

I just bought a factory 615, 616, 617.91 engine manual off ebay.
I hope it will correspond to my 1976 300D.

As per the link I posted above, the answer to your question is yes. Click and see for yourself...

kerry 09-06-2003 02:24 PM

Can anyone direct us to a website where all the differences between the various models of 616 and 617 engines are explained?
I know some of the differences between the turbo and non-turbo but how about a complete list of all differences and to which engines they apply?

240Demon 09-06-2003 05:16 PM

The 617 Turbo for the 300D is the 617.952

sixto 09-06-2003 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kerry edwards
Can anyone direct us to a website where all the differences between the various models of 616 and 617 engines are explained?
I know some of the differences between the turbo and non-turbo but how about a complete list of all differences and to which engines they apply?

That would be quite an undertaking since I've seen non-transportation application 616s. I saw some being used to drive water pumps in a commercial fishery in Asia. Saw the MB logo and was intrigued. I had to check the serial number to be sure it was a 616. Those things stayed on for months between service breaks.

Sixto
95 S420
91 300SE
87 300SDL
83 300SD


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