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Old 10-10-2003, 03:58 PM
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Hood hinge replacement

Hi,

The car is a w123 83 300D. My hood is misaligned, and the clip that attaches the hood hinge to the fender has broken off.
Because of this, I have decided to replace the whole hood hinge assembly on the drivers side.

Would someone who has done this before, or someone who has experience parting these cars please walk me through the replacement? I assume it is a 2 person job, and if the hood is supported on one hinge the wrong way while replacing the other, the one that is not being replaced will easily bend under the weight and stress.

Any help would be most appreciated.

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Old 10-10-2003, 04:53 PM
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Hi,
If your planning on doing the job in a garage where you can support the weight of hood by a rope to a cross member, then you can leave it on but make sure you have enough height to open the hood to vertical, otherwise remove the hood which is only a matter of removing the windscreen washer pipe and four 6mm bolts on the hood edge above, hinge (can be done single handed but two people is easier).
Which ever way you decide to do it, first open hood to vertical, when you get to normal opening height release the sprung clip where the main spring attaches to the arm (one on each arm ) raise and support the hood, at this point the tension will be released and the springs can be removed (if you are going to remove the hood( easiest option) undo 6mm bolts, before removing, lower hood for safety, remove bolts and slide hood from hinges. Then it is a simple matter of removing the sprung- plate- clip from the end of the hinge pin, plus an 8mm bolt at the door end of the top link( watch you don't loose the bush ).Then fit new hinge and as Haynes manuals always say assembly is reverse of removal, when hood refitted adjust gap on hinges and secure. Job done
Ps If you decide to leave the hood on and support, pad with foam rubber between hood and windscreen, as the hood can push towards screen when hinge removed.Sorry to be so longwinded about it but it is an easy job Honest!!!
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Old 11-19-2006, 03:54 AM
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W123 hood hinge

W123 hood hinge part numbers.

123-880-10-77 Support Hood
123-880-09-77 Support Hood


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so you don't have to take off the fenders?

I took off my hood but cannot seem to get to the bolt at the back of the hinge assembly buried at the back of the spring pocket. I started to take off my fender but then couldn't figure out the front part where it mends with front section. Needless to say, I'm stuck and confused. point me in the right direction please and thank you! This is on my 82 240D.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:28 PM
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I took off my hood but cannot seem to get to the bolt at the back of the hinge assembly buried at the back of the spring pocket. I started to take off my fender but then couldn't figure out the front part where it mends with front section. Needless to say, I'm stuck and confused. point me in the right direction please and thank you! This is on my 82 240D.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:37 PM
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I took off my hood but cannot seem to get to the bolt at the back of the hinge assembly buried at the back of the spring pocket. I started to take off my fender but then couldn't figure out the front part where it mends with front section. Needless to say, I'm stuck and confused. point me in the right direction please and thank you! This is on my 82 240D.
I personally wouldn't take the fender off.

What you need is a 13mm gear wrench and a flexible flat tool. I used a plastic bodyworking tool. Getting the bolt out isn't the crappy part, it's getting the bolt back in that's the worst. With the bolt in the gear wrench you need something to push it into the hole. Which is what the plastic tool is for.
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:41 PM
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wow an old one!
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:13 AM
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I took off my hood but cannot seem to get to the bolt at the back of the hinge assembly buried at the back of the spring pocket. I started to take off my fender but then couldn't figure out the front part where it mends with front section. Needless to say, I'm stuck and confused. point me in the right direction please and thank you! This is on my 82 240D.
As Martureo said you need a ratchet gear wrench. Not the flat cheaper type, must be the Mastercraft 13mm reverse gear wrench with the angled head. Hinge must not be attached to hood. Glue the bolt head into the socket. Use a large screwdriver etc to get it started and provide friction. Then it's a piece of cake. Don't even think about taking off the fender.

That 13mm gear wrench will become the most useful tool in your kit!
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:24 AM
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I've got a 3/8" drive ratchet-less ratchet handle for doing this sort of thing. You just need to back it up by a tiny amount for it to grip and then turn the socket again - so you aren't encumbered by the more common got to go past the click ratchet systems.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:42 AM
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I did not have a gearwrench just an open end 13mm wrench.
Slow and steady did the trick,
I was only removing the hinges for parts so I did not have to worry about reinstallation.
Not that I recommend it, but with the hood in max vertical position, I found it would stay in place on it own with one hinge removed.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:40 AM
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I took off my hood but cannot seem to get to the bolt at the back of the hinge assembly buried at the back of the spring pocket. I started to take off my fender but then couldn't figure out the front part where it mends with front section. Needless to say, I'm stuck and confused. point me in the right direction please and thank you! This is on my 82 240D.
That particular Bolt on mine appears to be rusted in really good. I would takes as much care as you can removing and start soaking it now in your favorite penetrating Oil.

On Mine the Water drains in that area had been non-functional for a long time and the Metal around the main Hing Bushing had rotted out.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:50 PM
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wow! you guys are awesome!

Thank you so much! I will search out that Mastercraft reverse gear wrench tomorrow! I will make sure to take some photos too, so you all can see my repair. The drivers side spring pocket has a rusted through dime sized hole that drains water into the firewall and the passenger side is just rusty and I want to get them both fixed up. I bought the rust repair kit from **************.com, which consists of the Miracle paint, fiberglass sheets and the top coat chip guard spray. I hope that holds and keeps the rust out. Thanks again all!
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:36 AM
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When I blew compressed Air into the bottom of the drain all kinds of crap came out of the top.
Don't know if this is of interest or not:
Rusted Out Hood Hinge Repair
Rusted Out Lower Hood Hinge Repair; No Welding
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:39 AM
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Hi,

The car is a w123 83 300D. My hood is misaligned, and the clip that attaches the hood hinge to the fender has broken off.
Because of this, I have decided to replace the whole hood hinge assembly on the drivers side.

Would someone who has done this before, or someone who has experience parting these cars please walk me through the replacement? I assume it is a 2 person job, and if the hood is supported on one hinge the wrong way while replacing the other, the one that is not being replaced will easily bend under the weight and stress.

Any help would be most appreciated.

JMH
You may have the typical problem that the pin seized in the bushing. If so when it lets go it destroys the mounting area. This by ripping out the sheet metal. If so that area needs repaired.

Not one of my favorite little jobs. Easy to avoid just by getting way back in there and oiling every few years. At least oil the other side as a part of the job. I may have the pin you are talking about confused though. The one I mention is way back in there.
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Old 05-05-2012, 11:06 AM
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You may have the typical problem that the pin seized in the bushing. If so when it lets go it destroys the mounting area. This by ripping out the sheet metal. If so that area needs repaired.

Not one of my favorite little jobs. Easy to avoid just by getting way back in there and oiling every few years. At least oil the other side as a part of the job. I may have the pin you are talking about confused though. The one I mention is way back in there.
That is what happende to mine. Also the Bolts that are way back in the tunnel appeard to be rustd in but the smaller Arms hinged OK on it so I did not attempt to remove the Bolts.

Also to do adjustment on the Arms I bent the Arms a little.

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