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Old 01-04-2004, 02:04 PM
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IP removal and replacement

Can someone glean a little experience here!


Do you set the 617 engine on TDC or at the timing point when removing and replacing the IP??


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Michael:

Set engine to start of delivery position (24 or 26 degrees BTDC). Set pump to start of delivery (align the mark on the end of the shaft with the mark on the retaining flange, should also align with the missing spline).

Install at that position, loosely tighten nuts, then set injection timing.

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Old 01-04-2004, 02:52 PM
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Put the engine at 24 degrees before TDC (on #1) prior to pulling the pump. If the injection pump is Bosch production code number "251" (November 1982) the mark for begin of delivery may be applied to the wrong spot on the bearing cap. Look to see if the spline is properly lined up when you remove you IP. If the mark on the IP bearing cap is approximately lined up with the center of the screw then the mark is in the correct place.
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:33 PM
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FYI. RE: language IP

Hello Everyone
FYI:
The abbreviation IP stands for instrument panel.
This is listed http://autorepair.about.com/library/glossary/blterms-001.htm.
I presume the topic was injection pump.

Other Terminology and Acronyms

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/generalinfo/l/bl_t_a.htm
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:46 PM
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Either that or on a Mercedes you have to have the crankshaft in the correct position to remove the instrument cluster (IC, which is what MB's abbreviation is for the Instrument Panel). I think MB is more into "DIN" abbreviations, being based in Europe and all .

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Old 01-04-2004, 06:35 PM
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Thanks whunter - I never knew that. I was referring to the fuel injection pump.
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I looked at that site. On the OEM OBDII/SAE list they show "IPC" as the "Instrument Panel Cluster", and on the "General Terms" list they show "I/P" as "instrument panel". No idea where they got the info for the "general terms" from, they don't say. I don't think the list is qualified by anyone but whoever put the list together.
MB refers to the instrument cluster as the IC, says so right on the Diagnostic Manual. In the ETM (Electrical Troubleshooting Manual) in the Acronyms section (up front in group 00) they also list the abbreviation CLUS for instrument cluster.
An IP is the injection pump.

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Maybe we should call the injection pump ES as in Einspritzmotor.

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Old 01-05-2004, 10:05 AM
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shouldn't that be einspritzengine?
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No, pump. It doesn't generate any force, it's driven.

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In Europe, the injection pump is commonly abbreviated as "FIP" (Fuel Injection Pump). But I'm sure we all understood the original question anyway.
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But I'm sure we all understood the original question anyway.
Yes, and that's the important part.

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So we are going to say FIP instead if IP for injector pump so if you forgot our lunch, hang your coat on the upper peg and get a hair cut after?

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Old 01-05-2004, 08:04 PM
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Stevo:

Could you rephrase the question?

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Old 01-05-2004, 09:25 PM
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Does the oil filter housing REALLY need to be removed? I' just needing to replace the mounting gasket (The source of my 1Q/100miles leak).
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