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Old 01-05-2004, 03:58 PM
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83 300D wheel/axle noise???

I have spent over 1300 in tring to solve this rear end noise that is usually intermittent but getting much louder now. My shop has replaced both rear axle halfs and when i continued to complain of the noise the told me to get new tires. Now they want to replace the right rear wheel bearings and hub at a cost of $850. First of all the noise is clearly coming from the left side. Im mad as hell at them for not replacing the bearings when they did both axle halfs. I took the car to another shop, they drove it, and admit its a very odd noise. It pounds and clicks loudly, under and not under load. It dosent matter if your going straight or turning, the noise may differ, but dosent go away. However, there have been some days of 100+ miles of driving and it'll never make a noise. But other days it will wake up the dead. I know what sounds whell bearings make when they fail, and they are constaint noises, anyone have this same problem. Im also tired of my M-B shop thinking im a bank.

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Old 01-05-2004, 04:25 PM
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If the Mercedes shop recommended the axels be replaced to correct the problem and it did NOT correct it. Insist on a refund of your money. This is a bad dignosis on the shops part. You can do this! I have on my 560SL.
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It is possible that you have a broken or worn tooth in the differential. By popping the differential plate they should be able to inspect the differential and the debris in the fluid.
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What is the condition of your rear brakes and parking brakes. You could have a piece that is broken and is floating around in the wheel brake section. Remember the parking brake is a completely separate system from the hydraulic brake system and is completely mechanical.

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Old 01-05-2004, 08:27 PM
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Thanks for your reply!
The axle was replaced the first time due to the boot being ripped. The noise started after that and was only once in a while, then the second (drivers) side was replaced. The noise stopped for 5000 miles and is back and louder than ever.
The second shop did mention a piece off the parking brake might have fallen off and could cause this. The parking brake works ok and the brakes on the back are fair to good. I will have the second shop look at it next week.
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Old 01-25-2004, 09:57 PM
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Okay, the story goes on...
The second shop i have a big problem with. The did a complete rear brake job, said something was loose in the parking brake. I pay for this and 4 miles down the road the noise comes back. Now the second time i bring it back, oh the left rear wheel bearings need replaced. I was very reluctant to have them do this because the first shop i took the car to wanted to replace the RIGHT wheel bearings and hub and i told them no. So, i pay for the car and drive 4 miles down the road and the noise comes back! Okay $800 later i still have the noise and now the rear left shock absorber is shot after they fooled around with the left wheel bearing work.
Im about to call the attorney generals office on these clowns, the ytold me to bring it back and they'll make it right. Im demanding a rental car at the very least, and a good discount on what ever work the need to perform next. What else is there left to replace???????
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Old 02-01-2004, 06:29 PM
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Okay, the shop now said its a frozen shock on the rear left that was causing the noise. I pay $250 for rear shocks, drive the car 10 miles from the shop and the poise comes back!
The shop wants to see the car again and switch the axle 1/2s which have been replaced last year to see if the noise will then come from the right side.

Over $1100 and 3 visits and the noise is not gone. The car is 21 yrs old, i understand, but they tell me those parts needed replaced anyways. I dont want them to replace 1/2 my car, just FIX THE NOISE! Do i have to hire an attorney? Please anyone with some suggestions as to what to do!
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Old 02-01-2004, 08:02 PM
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When they did the brake job did they turn the rotors or replace them. A badly warped rotor will cause intermitant noise like that. Walk around the car after 50 miles and feel all wheels in center. If one is warm it indicates badly warped rotor or bad bearing.
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Old 02-01-2004, 10:51 PM
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Thanks 300sel, they did replace the rotors w/new ones. Theres really nothing left unless one of the axle 1/2s were bad. The driveline is tight with no play. And its not the exhaust.
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Old 02-07-2004, 09:22 PM
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I was going to ask-

Did the rebuilt axles have any effect/change on the noise. For a bearing being bad, generally it would be precievable by play. Jack up the rear of the car, then pull on each tire to check for rear wheel bearing play. If one is very loose... it should be replaced.

Hard to diagnois when I cannot hear it... Throwing parts at it won't make it go away.

?? It's not a failing rear flex disk- any benz shop should know this.

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Old 02-10-2004, 10:48 PM
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I replaced the right rear wheel bearing on our 1987 300D myself. I was told the right side is most likely to go first. No more noise! Cost $60 bearing about 2 hrs. labor . Norm in FL
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Old 02-10-2004, 11:47 PM
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Norm,

W124 chassis is completely different than a W123. It more difficult on a W123.



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