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Old 11-28-2004, 02:43 AM
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Thanks Crowe for looking for me. Hopefully one will turn up. I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving.

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Old 06-29-2006, 12:37 PM
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:16 PM
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i had a w116 300sd. and it was the best car ever! it was a beater but i enjoyed it more than my current 300SD (W126). i wish i had enough money to get another one.
same here, my 116 sd beater is so much more like a little sportscar than the pretty 126 sd I have! way quicker and more fuel efficient. lots of vacuum issues though, and a ridiculous device for the climate control
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:17 PM
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I may buy a W116, 280S gasser.
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:56 PM
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I may buy a W116, 280S gasser.
That would make a good 4 sp....
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:28 PM
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There are three bodies I like: w115, w116, and w123.

Right now we have a w116 (first MBZ, first diesel). It does seem like I am in the minority. The HVAC just started acting up and I am going to convert it to manual controls and do a write up about it.
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:37 PM
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There are three bodies I like: w115, w116, and w123.

Right now we have a w116 (first MBZ, first diesel). It does seem like I am in the minority. The HVAC just started acting up and I am going to convert it to manual controls and do a write up about it.

You need a diesel wagon to go with that turbo wagon....
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:31 PM
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Right now we have a w116 (first MBZ, first diesel). It does seem like I am in the minority. The HVAC just started acting up and I am going to convert it to manual controls and do a write up about it.
i am really looking forward to that write up. My Servo cracked last week and stop functionning since then. Right on time for the summer !!!
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:34 PM
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i am really looking forward to that write up. My Servo cracked last week and stop functionning since then. Right on time for the summer !!!
i 've found a 450SEL with the manual systme in a junk yard, but i was wondering if the manual and auto system are just plug and play. The pods and connections did not look so different... but i did not see the valves on the manual. any idea?
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:36 PM
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There are three bodies I like: w115, w116, and w123.

Right now we have a w116 (first MBZ, first diesel). It does seem like I am in the minority.
Main reason for that is the rust issues the w116 chassis has. I have never run across a single one without rust issues. And that is here in Texas.....
I really like the looks of the w116, and hear great things about the ride.
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Old 06-29-2006, 11:32 PM
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That would make a good 4 sp....


I hope!
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Old 06-30-2006, 10:48 AM
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i am really looking forward to that write up. My Servo cracked last week and stop functionning since then. Right on time for the summer !!!
Well, in case you want to go forward with an untested idea, here it is:

Get an electronic heater control valve and associated potentiometer from http://www.vintageair.com/. It is in their catalog under "replacement parts" for their own solutions. Also get their blower motor control switch. EDIT- Their are also knobs and labels you can/should buy.

Then get some (three?) "EGR Vacuum Solenoids" from a GM vehicle. They are used to control the EGR valve. Their input is like that of a fuel injector, but since we will always want the open or closed (and not somewhere inbetween) you can control them with a simple switch. Now just get some (four?) switches (you will need one for the AC aswell).

I was going to mount all of the controls to a piece of brushed stainless steel that would go right where the original controls went.
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Old 06-30-2006, 11:13 AM
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cost of the project?
Now i am really excited to see your results. I would bet many people in this forum, including W116, W107, and W123 owners would love to get rid forever of the cursed Chrysler ACII!!!! and have a simple straight forward manual climate control.
The challenge here is gonna be to not make it look ghetto.
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Old 06-30-2006, 01:50 PM
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I have a 79 300SD, and about to get a euro 6.9.
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Old 07-01-2006, 02:16 AM
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cost of the project?
Here are the parts from Vintage Air:

11458-VUS - Fan blower motor switch - $11.25
46114-VUH - Heater control servo (electonic heater control valve) - $39.95
11413-RUA - Potentiometer for heater control servo (aka a dial) - $4.95
49457-VUI x 2 - knobs for blower motor switch and potentiometer - $0.70 x 2 = $1.40
20558-VUP - Blower motor selector label (OFF/LOW/MED/HIGH) - $1.25
20571-VUP - Label for potentiometer - $1.74

Now, after that you still need to control the vacuum operated flaps (for lack of a better term). I plan to use GM "EGR Vacuum Servos." I have been studying the manual and it looks like you need four of them. I think I found one place that sold them for ~$12 a piece.

You will also need some vacuum hose, some mounting hardware for the vacuum servos, some sort of switch(es) to control the servos (EDIT- and your AC), and somewhere to mount all of the controls. I plan to replace the current black piece of plastic with a piece of brushed stainless steel (sheet metal folded down on all four edges). That will look good enough for me.

I think the whole conversion will run you less than any part in that stupid system.

Note: some of this is from memory, I could be wrong. But this is my idea, have at it.

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Now i am really excited to see your results. I would bet many people in this forum, including W116, W107, and W123 owners would love to get rid forever of the cursed Chrysler ACII!!!! and have a simple straight forward manual climate control.
Well, the w123 guys can snag it out of a 240D. We don't have that option.

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The challenge here is gonna be to not make it look ghetto.
I concur.

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