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I believe that later relays have the thermistor in the relay itself, not in in the block. Don't know when the change was made, 83 could be either way.
The W126 and W124 diesels don't have a block temp sensor. Peter
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Just changed 4 of my 5 glowplugs today. That 5th plug will be a bear, I think those new ratcheting wrenches are the way to go, not enough room for a deep well socket. Mine wouldn't start cold unless plugged in. I purposely left it unplugged last night, then after installing the plugs it started right up! I checked the resistance on each new plug and all were .4 to .5 ohms. Then after I started the car and it was warmed up (not hot) they were 1.5 to 1.6. I guess if someone were to check theirs it should be done cold. When I first bought my '82 TD about a week ago, the glow light stayed on about 5 seconds, the last few days it wouldn't come on at all, now it stays on about 10 seconds. Tomorrow morning should be the test (32 degs.)
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Check glow plugs cold
I agree with on your comment about checking the glow plugs cold. I think it is just assumed by everyone that you check them cold. The manual states that the glow plugs are in order if you measure 1 ohm or less at 20°C/68°F.
I did notice a difference on the resistance reading depending on when I measured the glow plugs. I also agree that the fifth glow plug will be more difficult than the other 4. I used a boxed end wrench to remove the four. You may have a good idea about using wratchiting wrench to remove the glow plugs. After changing 4 of 5 glow plugs and installing used relay, I still had trouble starting the 82 300SD last Saturday. It was 3°F at the house. I did not think I would need to use the block heater becuase of the parts I had just installed. Bottom line was the car would not start. I wore down the battery after first glow cycle and cranking episode. Used the block heater and the battery charger for about 45 minutes. Then she started. I took the car to friends shop and we tested the battery. It indicated it was good. It is about 4 years old. It still may be the problem. I looked at the prefilter and noticed it was blackish in color. My problem may now be bad fuel/algae. I put some fuel conditioner in and will see what happens.
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Sensors
OK, I am now more intrigued after reading these posts. I have a 1980 240D, which has the sensor you described between the #3 & 4 plugs, but in addition also has one between the #1 & 2 plugs, also in the same harness and both go to the module. The frontmost one is stamped "NTC" in the brass nut along with the part #'s and goes to pin #8 marked "NTC" on the module, the rearmost of the two goes to pin #6 and is marked "B" on the module, any idea what each one is for?
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