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One of those FWD campers?
[edit] LeSharo! Sixto 87 300D |
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I should add that those Cat D399s I mentioned in an earlier post were speed controlled to maintain what I recall to be 1200 RPM regardless of load.
So their oil consumption was not so much do with engine speed or the lack of it so much as it was the amount of resistance on the shaft.
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Curious why is there more load? To me the only difference is the brakes vs. the parking gear holding the turbine of the TC. Is the pressure within the TC increased when in D?
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In park the tranny is in neutral so the torque converter is not being pulled against.
In D with the park brake set it is loading the torque converter so there is a bit more resistance for the motor to pull against. Probably not enough to matter though. I suspect the comment was made more tongue in cheek than anything else. I have idled my MB many times overnight or all day in very cold weather. It is not as good a duty as running constantly at a load such as on the highway but the harm done seems to be minimal. If offered the option of idleing a few days or having a huge issue getting one started I would not hesitate to let it idle.
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This is theoretically correct, I believe but I see no practical way to achieve it without risking damage to the engine.
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yup.
I have another one right now that I'm working on. removed the Renault and am transplanting a buick 3.8 Been on hold for the last year as I have been to busy playing with the MB's |
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this may be a bad comparison
and may have been said already. How much different were the old Mercedes diesel generators they had on refrigerator trucks compared to a regular MB diesel? They would have those engines idling non-stop for months
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Further (anecdotal) info - diesel idling
When I was OTR trucking (before I bought an APU) I would idle overnight w/ a 3406E Cat. At dead idle (~725-750 rpm) the engine would use 1.2 to 1.25 gal/hr. If I set the idle up to 1000 rpm, it would use 1.00 to 1.05 gph. Advantages also in that coolant flow was increased (helps reduce possible hot spots) and oil flow increased also (piston crown cooling).
Disadvantage (as stated previously in this thread) low temps. (never park facing the wind, close up winterfront [if available], cardboard over PART of radiator if necessary). Yes, that engine is a DI design. That said, I will idle my 300D if necessary to prevent cold start issues (at work I don't always have access to a shore line for the block heater). At home, it always gets plugged in. -Eric |
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Partially blocking the radiator with a piece of cardboard should work.
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I was picturing reducing the capacity of the cooling system to hold coolant.
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I know on a commercial boat if you want to bring the engineer up to the wheel house, just idle the engines for a while. If going past a bunch of yacht harbors its hard to comply with his whining Cats will belch a big cloud of black smoke when reved up after a short time at idle.
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Question: what is the fuel consumption of my 603 at the default dial "4" setting? (Assuming the engine is in good tune and gets normal average MPG driving.)
Anybody know how many gallons per hour are consumed, or given a full tank of diesel how many hours will she idle? thanks!
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I wonder if the OP still has the same car and still lives in Montreal? This thread was started in 2004.
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daw_two Germantown, TN Links: Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior Cluster Needles Paint New Old Stock (NOS) parts Past: 3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda" 04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben" & many more |
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Idling = bad. Wet stacking, fuel contam lube oil , excess carbon in the combustion chanber.
There are now laws ( federal? ) that ban long term idling of engines in trucks over 5 ton. Most engine manufacturers have recommended against long term idling. |
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However, I was coming due for another Glow plug change, and was paranoid that I may end up with the dreaded stuck glow plug(s) syndrome. I had changed them twice in the past with no problem, but maybe I was just lucky. So in view of the preceeding, I decided to sell the car. I still log in here once in a while just to see what's going on, but now I'm mostly on the Lexus ES300 User group. I am sincerely thankful to this group for the past help that I was provided. You guys have really been great. Thanks. Phil
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