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This problem also happens with a full tank. Where is the lift pump located?
1987 300 TD 196Km 1987 300D 184Km 2001 CLK 430 Convertible 34Km |
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Replace the fuel lines around the lift pump and pre-heater. About four short fuel lines in there. Also, make sure the pre-heater thermostat isn't leaking, or it can drain all the fuel out of the lift pump.
Lift pump is on the side of the IP, where the hose from the tank with the clear pre-filter goes. Connected to the pre-heater on the block through the pre-heater thermostat, but I don't remember if it's suction side or pressure side at the moment. I did all of those hoses this summer to cure some idle and diesel smell problems. Peter
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Thanks Peter,
I will do them all this weekend and let everyone know how it went! |
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This is no acceptable behavior!
I have been having a similar experience with my 99 E300. The other morning it would not start. Cranked fine, no warning lights, but would not fire. I am still on starmark, so I called the stealership to see what they had to say. The roadside assistant folks said I should floor it and crank the tar out of it. I did and it eventually started. Very rough at first, then slowly smoothed out. I took it in to the stealership to have a look. They let it sit overnight, it started just fine, they ran a diagnostic and it turned up nothing. Gave me a bill for a $100.00 bucks and sent me on my way. This morning, the same thing happened. It took at least a dozen attempts, 45-60 seconds each. Feels and sounds like fuel, not electrical or mechanical. I did not call the stealership this time, I may tomorrow. I presently am parked in my driveway, up grade, 3/8 of a tank of fuel. If this is about parking on a grade with low fuel, this is no acceptable behavior!
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Trapeze:
you won't have a problem sucking in air from the tank when the tank in 3/8 full. It's when you are on a very steep hill with less than 1/4 that it might happen. It sounds like you're getting air in the system somehow. I'd check all the fuel lines. By the way, you have hills in Florida?
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The hills of Clermont reach upwards of 150 feet above sea level.
The “hill” I am referencing is the grade in my driveway 3-4 degrees! The stealership said they checked the fuel lines, I suspect they did a cursory look. Just after shutting it down, I opened the hood and heard a faint hissing sound, like air? The sound stopped after two minutes. As I said before, I have a starmark warrantee until August. Should it have covered the “look under the hood” the stealership did? |
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I'll bet they charge a "diagnostic" fee if they look for a problem and can't find anything wrong. This is probably their way of keeping the car hypochondriacs from constantly coming by. However if something is wrong Starmark should refund the money. Take it back and insist they look again.
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Last Thursday I had the same starting issues.
Last Thursday I had the same starting issues. This time I only tried starting twice, then called a different stealership. Asked them to tow it, I wanted them to see it in its non starting condition. They call me on Friday to tell me they found the problem, it is the “crankshaft position sensor”? B.S.!!! I told them that I would be surprised if they did not find a fuel issue. Sure enough, on Monday I get a call that the fuel shutoff valve was cracked and sucking air. (No mention of the previous diagnosis) They replaced the fuel shutoff valve as well as 3 of the clear fuel lines, all under starmark. They also replaced the fuel filter, to the tune of $97.93 parts and labor! I guess they felt a need to fill the amount I approved.
Thank you for pointing me to the fuel line issues!
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You found the loophole. The shutoff valve is covered by Starmark. So when they replace it under warranty, they can sneak the fuel lines in too. But lines by themselves are not covered. Glad you got it fixed.
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Turns out it was the pressure valve seals on the injector pump. See 603 injection pump leaking
1987 300 TD 198Km 1987 300D 185Km 2004 CLK 500 Convertible 200m |
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Jared:
Take the glow plug connector off the relay (left fender skirt on the W124 chassis) and check the resistance between the connetors in the free end and ground. Must be 0.6 to 0.8 ohm (use a digital meter, you can't see that low on a needle type meter). Zero or anything above 1 ohm means they are bad. You can also check between the connection at the glow plug and ground, but some of them are very hard to reach on the M603. On series type plugs, check the resistance between the inner and outer connections on the plug -- just put the probes on the solid "wires" between the plugs right at one glowplug. Peter
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