Speed Bleeder - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

The Warden · #1 03-23-2004, 10:48 PM

http://www.speedbleeder.com/

Has anyone heard of this? If so, has anyone tried it, and with what results?

Looks to me like you'd still need a second person under the car just to watch the fluid and see when the air stopped coming out, but offhand, it looks like a nice setup.

Any thoughts? Thanks!

Brian Carlton · #2 03-24-2004, 12:11 AM

They seem like they would certainly do the job. But, four of them cost about the same as the easy-bleed system. With the easy-bleed, you just pressurize the master cylinder and go around to each wheel youself. Makes the wife unnecessary (if you have one that is

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wolf_walker · #3 03-24-2004, 02:10 AM

There nifty looking, seen them before but never really gave them a close look.

I've been intending for awhile to try and make a pressure bleeder with a spare MC cap and an old pump up garden sprayer. I think it'd work..

daverdla · #4 03-24-2004, 07:09 AM

I made a pressure bleeder for my old saab that also works on my porsche. Haven't the mercedes long enough to need to bleed anything. I cut a piece of sheet metal to fit under the threaded part of the lid (the center section with the warning sensor pops off). In the center of this metal disk, I drilled a hole and mounted a threaded tire valve. Simply put the disk with the valve in the threaded part of the cap and put it back on the master cylinder. Pump it up gently with a bicycle pump. You need very little pressure to move the fluid.
Dave

tjohn · #5 03-24-2004, 07:16 AM

Haven't used speed bleeders, but I do have a pressure bleeder - the Motive Power Bleeder. If you hunt on the price they can be had for around $40 plus shipping. Worth every penny, true one man bleeding with no chance of introducing excess air into the system.

Stevo · #6 03-24-2004, 11:26 AM

Warden

I use a pressure bleeder. Doesn't get any easier then that. Hook up a line to the L/F tire for air pressure, go around and do your bleeding....done. cost around $40.00

R Leo · #7 03-24-2004, 11:33 AM

I home-made a pressure bleeder out of a $9.95 garden sprayer, a chunk of hose, a barbed nipple and an old MBZ brake reservoir cap. Haven't had a chance to use it yet but will soon when doing the clutch on the wagon.

I'll give a report then.

Zeitgeist · #8 03-24-2004, 04:14 PM

I built my garden sprayer pressure bleeder from this template:
http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

The gauge really helps. I also like the sprayers with the built-in pressure relief knob, so things don't get messy real quick...

lietuviai · #9 03-24-2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
I built my garden sprayer pressure bleeder from this template:
http://www.bmw-m.net/TechProc/bleeder.htm

The gauge really helps. I also like the sprayers with the built-in pressure relief knob, so things don't get messy real quick...

Looks like I, the ultimate cheapskate, will be making one.

#10 03-24-2004, 08:06 PM

I would love to have the speed bleeders, but I have too many cars. It would cost a small fortune to put them in all of them.

You could make a very good bleeder from a pesticide sprayer. Looking at my motive unit, I think the pump that screws in the top is actually the same thing as the pump in my insecticide sprayer.

Have a great day,

dieseldiehard · #11 07-05-2019, 12:20 AM

OK, well my 2-cents here.
I am going over my "new" E300D turbo and decided to bleed the brakes and replace brake hoses at the same time. This on general principle, being a 20 y.o. car and I want to get it up to new standards where safety is concerned.
I pulled out the MityVac Power Bleeder which is a clone of the Motive Power Bleeder, or maybe Motive is making the old MityVac design.
I filled the container with a liter of DOT4 and attached the cap like I always do and pumped it up to 12 maybe 15 pounds and proceeded to bleed the rt rear caliper (always do the one furthermost from the MC first).

I had just finished getting air out of the new hoses and I heard a Swoosh noise, not something I liked to hear, and I went up front and discovered the hose had split and it spewed fluid all out onto the engine cover and across onto the pavement. I quickly applied orange oil cleaner spray on the engine and anything that was affected then I hosed it off, leaving the mess on the pavement for later.
The reason it failed is it was old and the hose had yellowed so clearly it was weak and blew out. I guess I should have realized that before setting out to use it, but hindsight is always clearer than foresight as they say

Doing a search, I found MityVac does not support older models for replacement parts and Ii noted they are really proud of their products now I wasn't prepared to open my pocketbook for a new one. Besides I needed to finish the job asap.

I started looking for a section of hose and some clamps to fit the ones that were permanently attached on the top of the pressure container, then I remembered I had some SpeedBleeders!
A few years back I purchased a set of Speedbleeders and put them aside, intending to use them on the Blue W124 diesel, and discovered one nipple was frozen in place on the last caliper. I tried PBlaster, heat, and gentle nudges on a line wrench then I gave up not wanting to have it crack off and leave me needing to repair the caliper

So I remembered the Speedbleeders, dug them out and installed them.
Darn they work perfectly!
They saved my day!
One has to watch the MC reservoir and not let it go dry else it will let air in the lines, but thats not hard.
So this is my SpeedBleeder story!
I think I'll get another set for the next time I need to bleed brakes.
It allows doing a brake bleed by yourself with no chance of spewing brake fluid all over the engine compartment!

And let this also serve as a warning to anyone who owns an older pressure bleeder of any kind to check the condition of the hose before using it!!
DDH

vstech · #12 07-05-2019, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieseldiehard

OK, well my 2-cents here.
I am going over my "new" E300D turbo and decided to bleed the brakes and replace brake hoses at the same time. This on general principle, being a 20 y.o. car and I want to get it up to new standards where safety is concerned.
I pulled out the MityVac Power Bleeder which is a clone of the Motive Power Bleeder, or maybe Motive is making the old MityVac design.
I filled the container with a liter of DOT4 and attached the cap like I always do and pumped it up to 12 maybe 15 pounds and proceeded to bleed the rt rear caliper (always do the one furthermost from the MC first).

I had just finished getting air out of the new hoses and I heard a Swoosh noise, not something I liked to hear, and I went up front and discovered the hose had split and it spewed fluid all out onto the engine cover and across onto the pavement. I quickly applied orange oil cleaner spray on the engine and anything that was affected then I hosed it off, leaving the mess on the pavement for later.
The reason it failed is it was old and the hose had yellowed so clearly it was weak and blew out. I guess I should have realized that before setting out to use it, but hindsight is always clearer than foresight as they say

Doing a search, I found MityVac does not support older models for replacement parts and Ii noted they are really proud of their products now I wasn't prepared to open my pocketbook for a new one. Besides I needed to finish the job asap.

I started looking for a section of hose and some clamps to fit the ones that were permanently attached on the top of the pressure container, then I remembered I had some SpeedBleeders!
A few years back I purchased a set of Speedbleeders and put them aside, intending to use them on the Blue W124 diesel, and discovered one nipple was frozen in place on the last caliper. I tried PBlaster, heat, and gentle nudges on a line wrench then I gave up not wanting to have it crack off and leave me needing to repair the caliper

So I remembered the Speedbleeders, dug them out and installed them.
Darn they work perfectly!
They saved my day!
One has to watch the MC reservoir and not let it go dry else it will let air in the lines, but thats not hard.
So this is my SpeedBleeder story!
I think I'll get another set for the next time I need to bleed brakes.
It allows doing a brake bleed by yourself with no chance of spewing brake fluid all over the engine compartment!

And let this also serve as a warning to anyone who owns an older pressure bleeder of any kind to check the condition of the hose before using it!!
DDH

15 psi?
5 is usually where I bleed, 10 if 5 isnt moving fluid.
Whoosh eh... yikes.

Bengoshi2000 · #13 07-05-2019, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjohn

Haven't used speed bleeders, but I do have a pressure bleeder - the Motive Power Bleeder. If you hunt on the price they can be had for around $40 plus shipping. Worth every penny, true one man bleeding with no chance of introducing excess air into the system.

Bought one a couple years ago... not as mind-bogglingly useful as my air tools but worth it nonetheless.

dieseldiehard · #14 07-12-2019, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech

15 psi?
5 is usually where I bleed, 10 if 5 isnt moving fluid.
Whoosh eh... yikes.

I've never used less than 10psi
guess I was lucky it didn't rupture while I was on the opposite side.
I have determined the MC is kaput, OE one on order
Will try at 5psi but may go back to my old ways

JHZR2 · #15 07-12-2019, 11:36 PM

IMO pressure bleed. The speed bleeders look good, but I’ve heard that old master cylinders can fail if they are pushed far beyond their regular range of travel. Don’t know the truth of that.

If I had a track car that I wanted to routinely bleed before a run, I’d consider four speed bleeders and four bottles with rubber tubes.

But for the once every other year job, I prefer to be down there looking under the car (even much newer ones), looking at the fluid color and if bubbles are coming out, etc.