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Old 04-19-2004, 02:47 PM
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I hear the version of Acrobat Reader you use can make a difference in the appearance of the files. Make sure you're using at least v5, if not the current v6. Also, make sure you are viewing at 100%, not some odd percentage, which makes the image look worse. Finally, as Will said, printing can make a big difference too.

For the record, I have all the printed manuals and I prefer them to the CD simply because the CD navigation is awful. Most jobs are identical to the old books, but some items are new/updated on the CD.

If you want printed manuals, set up an eBay search that emails you when new items matching your search string appear (something like "mercedes manual -owner -owners -haynes").

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Old 04-19-2004, 10:40 PM
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I agree that there is no excuse for the poor quality of the CD regardless what we may have paid for them. I would like to have the book versions of the manuals but the prices these things fetch on ebay is down right ludicrous. It seems to me that there is probably some shill bidding going on.
On the subject of printing the CD's pages, yes they do seem to come out a little better if you print them but you must have a good quality ink jet printer to accomplish it. It does make a difference which version of Acrobat you use. The quality is horrific if you use the version that is on the CD. It improves a great deal if you use the newer versions.

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Old 02-15-2005, 05:06 PM
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and the current version of Acrobat is 7.0.
Get Adobe Reader V 7.0
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:28 PM
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I will try the new adobe

I had no luck with VER 5 I will download VER 7 and see if it will work ok. I like the way the online manuals are setup a lot better than the original cd the w123 online manual is all done some of the others from the same guy are not complete it is a rather slow server but for free it is a great deal. W123 online many other model manuals in various stages of being put online
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by william rogers
I bought a boot leg for 11 dollars on Ebay and found that if I printed out the pages I needed that they are easier to read............

William Rogers........
True, that's what I was doing as well when I only had the CD manual plus it was a PITA to run from garage back to the comp every time I needed to refer back to what I was working on.
Even when you printed the pages from the CD they were no where close to the clarity of the original manual.
I will repeat this again and again, If you are serious about working on your MB, get the printed manual, they are well worth the investment.
Plus you can take them anywhere.

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:03 PM
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I agree 100 percent

I could not agree more the printed manual is the way to go. Since I posted this I have purchased 6 factory manuals. 3 of them I just bought from a member of this board the problem with these 3 is there so perfect they belong in a glass display case not out in the garage or laying open on the dirt in a junkyard somewhere. I think to actual use these I am just going to have to smudge a few pages on purpose and be done with it.
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Eliel
All the manuals prior to about 1990 (I'm guessing at the date) were produced using conventional type setting and film process that was available. When the need for CD's became prevelent, MB didn't take the time or expense to convert the traditional manuals to an electronic form. This would have involved re-typesetting the entire book and scanning all the old photos. Quite an undertaking. Hence you have a CD for your 1980's car that was copied rather simply (and poorly).
This is very true, it would be a lot of work.
However, for 100 bucks for a 25cent CD, you would think MB could have paid someone to do this. Especially when the work is done, for 5 minutes with a computer, and another 25 cent CD, they could make another copy to sell for $100.
And so on.
Yamaha also suffers from pathetic versions of older manuals.
When you buy a Mercedes, you expect to pay extra for the extra quality you get. The same should apply for the CDs.
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Old 02-15-2005, 10:09 PM
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I just bought the Factory CD and find if I print out using a high quality printer that my restoration on my 123 chassis 300CD is going quite smoothly so far...My 2 cents.....

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