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Emergency fuel
I have asked this question before but never got a direct answer.
What SPECIFIC product available in a typical supermarket could I SAFELY put in the tank of my 1999 TD-300 to drive a few miles to the next diesel stop?
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1999 E300 TurboDiesel 2007 Ford Explorer limited 1981 John Deere 650 Diesel tractor |
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Is this a trick question? Off the top of my head I would GUESS....vegetable oil, citronella oil???
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'85 300SD (formerly california emissions) '08 Chevy Tahoe '93 Ducati 900 SS '79 Kawasaki KZ 650 '86 Kawasaki KX 250 '88 Kawasaki KDX200 '71 Hodaka Ace 100 '72 Triumph T100R |
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Re: Emergency fuel
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Any liquid cooking oil. Filtered used cooking oil (not usually available in the supermarket, but maybe from the fast food joint next door)
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Tony from West Oz. Fatmobile 3 84 300D 295kkm Silver grey/Blue int. 2 tank WVO - Recipient of TurboDesel engine. Josephine '82 300D 390kkm White/Palamino int. Elizabeth '81 280E, sporting a '79 300D engine. Lucille '87 W124 300D non-turbo 6 cylinder OM603, Pearl Grey with light grey interior Various parts cars including 280E, 230C & 300D in various states of disassembly. |
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no trick (G)
in a pinch which one... Canola, peanut, olive, corn, "vegetable", sunflower, safflower,Mizola, etc, oil..... given the typical choice at a supermarket or quick stop which one? Part 2 of this question which one has the best ctain rating (G)
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1999 E300 TurboDiesel 2007 Ford Explorer limited 1981 John Deere 650 Diesel tractor |
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All are about the same cetane-wise...my biggest concern would be viscosity at low temps....
Pure peanut oil seems to remain fluid to the lowest temps so that would be my selection for back-up fuel.
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shake it up
Pick up the veg. oil from mom and pop grocery shop and then walk across the road to the gas station that had no diesel. *Put up to say 15% gasoline into the oil to thin in out. If they have some mix in some diesel fuel additive at the proportion reccomended on the bottle. Shake it well before putting it in your tank. Lots of fueling stations will loan you a small gas tank. Mix it up in that.
If it is cold winter go for the 15%. Otherwise for your 99 MB I would think 10% would be about right. This blend is based on a working model of a veg fuel blend that is on the road now DAILY with a good several thousand miles behind it.
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"If anyone knows other lessons I need to learn, please tell me. I'm tired of learning them the hard way". by JerryBro The Glow Plug Wait: This waiting period is a moment of silence to pay honor to Rudolph Diesel. The longer you own your diesel the more honor you will give him". by SD Blue My normal daily life; either SNAFUed- Situation Normal... All Fouled Up, or FUBARed- Fouled Up Beyond All Repair 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD daily driver- both powered by blended UCO fuels |
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If you want your engine to feel young again, use Pure Virgin Olive Oil.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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"If anyone knows other lessons I need to learn, please tell me. I'm tired of learning them the hard way". by JerryBro The Glow Plug Wait: This waiting period is a moment of silence to pay honor to Rudolph Diesel. The longer you own your diesel the more honor you will give him". by SD Blue My normal daily life; either SNAFUed- Situation Normal... All Fouled Up, or FUBARed- Fouled Up Beyond All Repair 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD daily driver- both powered by blended UCO fuels |
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If you are at a supermarket and out of Diesel wouldn't it be easier to walk across the street or down the road to the gas station on the corner and get a gallon of Diesel?
Peanut oil is about $4.5 a gal. and virgin olive oil--well that's another story. |
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'81 300TD Wagon 355k (Miss Diesel) '83 300SD 180k '84 500SEL 190k (Parting it out) |
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How about a gallon or two of Diesel in the trunk. Its much safer than carrying gasoline. Why go through all the trouble of mixing and blending veg oils. When I had my Diesel I always had an extra gallon in the trunk..... and I never ran out of fuel so often.....there is something about knowing there is a backup that made me avoid refilling till it was too late.
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Are the red gas cans acceptable for holding diesel, or are the yellow diesel cans "special" somehow?
I would imagine that one of those narrower, taller 3-5 gallon gas cans would fit nicely into the depression on the passenger side of the trunk. Strap it down and it should be fine, no?
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I kept a 1 gallon red plastic gas jag in the wheel well. It fit nicely. Don't fill it to the top, it will expand in the hot trunk.
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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I'm just wondering if it'd be possible to put veggie oil in my tank during the summer (80°-100°; never really goes below 75° even at night) without modifying my fuel system...? Thanks! |
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Kugelsicher in his DI diesel/ truck runs 80wvo/20gas with a splash of cetane booste. He has done so for around 12,000 miles now with success BUTTTT... he has his fuel return line looped back to the prefilter which in effect adds heat to the fuel lowering viscosity.
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"If anyone knows other lessons I need to learn, please tell me. I'm tired of learning them the hard way". by JerryBro The Glow Plug Wait: This waiting period is a moment of silence to pay honor to Rudolph Diesel. The longer you own your diesel the more honor you will give him". by SD Blue My normal daily life; either SNAFUed- Situation Normal... All Fouled Up, or FUBARed- Fouled Up Beyond All Repair 62 UNIMOG Camper w/617 Turbo, 85 300SD daily driver- both powered by blended UCO fuels |
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