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Old 05-12-2004, 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by flash123
Cummins are pretty cheap on the used market.
How cheap is "cheap"? And where are you seeing these?

I can't remember having seen a 6BT Cummins go for under $2500, and I've been on the lookout for one (dreaming of repowering my truck)...

Re: the D-max, they haven't had any serious problems yet, but I want to see how they're doing in 10 years of use and abuse...I'm of the "old-school" mindset that doesn't like aluminum cylinder heads on cast-iron engine blocks. Besides, even if it has a lifespan roughly equal to a PSD, can it last as long as a properly-maintained Cummins? Even if I didn't keep the truck that long, if I were given a choice between a 200 horsepower engine that can be expected to last 500K miles and a 250 horsepower engine that can be expected to last 250K to 300K miles, I'd rather take the 20 horsepower engine.

Just my thoughts (again )
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:37 AM
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Only until the wastegate opens....

1972 220D ?? miles
1988 300E 200,012
1987 300D Turbo killed 9/25/07, 275,000 miles
1985 Volvo 740 GLE Turobodiesel 218,000
1972 280 SE 4.5 165, 000 - It runs!
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:49 AM
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Well the Power Stroke is a bit noisy. I really like pulling up to a fast food window in the Mercedes 240D and they can hear me without turning off the engine. Kind novel after being used to the Navstar. My brother makes jokes about the putter-put of the Mercedes, but most people wouldn't even know it was a diesel.

In fact the only time I don't hear my engine in the Ford, is when I am sitting at a stop light and there is a Dodge/Cummins next to me. The Cummins always drowns out the International.

I would might have chosen a Dodge if the had made a van on a truck chassis. The only one they built was on a unibody chassis. My only choice was a Ford. Never did like Fords. It's just that when I end up with one they never die, no matter how hard I try. I had a gasoline ford with a 302. Nobody would buy it. I lost track of how many times the speedometer turned over. I finally gave it to some guy to run as an Ice Cream Truck.

My wife grooms dogs. She used to drive Dodge vans for someone else. He put transmissions in every 60,000 miles. Her Ford ran about 240,000 miles on the first transmission.
69 220D not running
79 240D parts car
80 240D Beater runs everyday
81 300TD temp disabled cooling problem
82 300SD sweet
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Old 05-12-2004, 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by psfred

Only until the wastegate opens....

so true... unless you're non-wastegated or you've got yours blocked off like me

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