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By the looks of the tracks and blade, it either was used very little, had an easy life or had them recently replaced. Either way if it weren't for it IP problem, it still has a lot of life left in it.
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I had the opportunity to work on a IH TD10 many years ago. Was also amazed that it started on gas and then switched to diesel. To lower the compression for the gas system, you pulled a lever that opened a valve in each cylinder that led to another camber where the spark plug was located. It used a pony engine that was hand cranked to start the main engine on gas, after it warmed up a little you swithed it over to diesel to work.
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Are you sure your friend didn't mean to say "glow plugs"? Or confused between what a spark plug is and what a glow plug is?
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i'm sure it was spark plugs
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International Harvestor (IH) used the gasoline start Diesel for many years, the last one being manufactured about 1958.
The engine had 3 valves per cylinder (intake, exhaust and starting), spark plugs, distributor or magneto, starting carbureator, injection pump, injectors, starter motor and a compression reducing mechanism. The engine burned the gasoline in the same combustion chambers that the Diesel fuel is burned in. Here's how it works: To start the engine cold, the compression reducing handle is pulled back to a detent position and the Diesel throttle is also pulled back to shut off the Diesel fuel. Pulling the compression handle does 3 things: opens the starting valve, turns a butterfly valve in the intake manifold so the incoming air goes thru the starting carbureator and closes contacts to the ignition system. There is a chamber in the head that when the starting valve is opened reduces the compression from 16:1 to 6:1. This chamber has a spark plug in it. So now all the components of a gasoline engine are present: Carbureator to supply gasoline, spark for ignition, gasoline fuel tank and low compression to allow the starter to crank the engine easier. To start , Crank engine with starter and it starts running by burning gasoline ignited by a spark. Let it run a while to warm out, depending on how cold it is and then switch over to Diesel operation: Push compression handle and throttle forward at the same time and walaa, the engine is running as a full compression ignition Diesel. All the gasoline components of the engine I.E. spark, gasoline and low compression have been removed by one push of the compression handle. Note: When engine is hot it will start directly on Diesel cycle when cranked by the starter motor. As far as I know IH was the only manufacturer to build engines that started as described above. But these engines were used in all types of construction equipment, generators, boats, ETC. The picture of the IH TD6 crawler tractor has the gasoline start system described above. On the one side of the engine you can see the gasoline components and on the other side the Diesel components. P E H Last edited by P.E.Haiges; 06-27-2004 at 08:48 PM. |
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Guys around here used to rig cars so they could be switched to kerosene fuel when warmed up. Been years since I've seen that though.
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Kerosene operation just requires lower compression to accomodate its (much) lower octane rating, and some way of getting the engine hot enough to get decent vapourisation from the kerosene. B&S had a conversion kit to do this, dual fuel, start on gasoline from a small tank, switch over to kerosene after it'd been run a bit. Plus a second head gasket to lower the compression.
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I've read that many of the cars in Cuba are rigged to run on kerosene because they can't get gasoline very easily.
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All I can say is WOW!! I guess the oldtimers realized the potential of diesel but couldn't figure a reliable self-starting system so they concocted those setups. Pretty ingenious really. btw, in the Caribbean outboard motors that run on Kerosene are pretty common. Dunno how they work but they work well. RT
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I saw a show on PBS about classic (1950's typically) American cars in Cuba... they can't get legit brake fluid either... they use water....
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Gas and diesel combo engines all the way to the 50's...amazing. Just goes to show how vastly farther ahead German diesel tech is/was vs. here...
Ancient German diesels (WWI era beyond etc) just used air start systems to get the engines moving then they'd fire right up on diesel.
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here's a video of a bulldozer (similar model as pictured above) with an explanation of how it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y81EUqzvbWc
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