The small tail light bulb (I forget the number) also works in those sockets.

You could get extra fancy and put a socket in the fog slots that can utilize a double-filament bulb. Then wire the "brake" feed to the brake lights, and the "tail lamp" feed to the tail lamps. Then you'll have extra brake lights and tail lights.

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Is that a recommendation to avoid damaging the wiring?
Charles

If you used a regular brake light bulb (21 watts) as a tail lamp, it would be too bright and would probably desensitize the drivers behind you to when your actual brake lights come on. He probably mentioned that the smaller (10 watt) marker bulbs fit there so you knew you could use the lower wattage bulbs for tail lights.

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

This was suggested and tried and the 1157 sockets were too long. Did someone find another option? LED's were also suggested earlier.
Main issue is to not overload and burnout the wiring!
Charles

Got it!
That would also minimize any possible wiring overload issues. Great suggestion. That's what I'll do unless another option comes forward.
Charles

Cr,

As long as U don't burn out the fuse, U won't damage the wiring.

P E H

I installed a high mount brake light for a chevy van in my back window and it made a lot of difference to the braking but I wanted more.

So I installed two more brake lights in the sockets closest to the license plate and that helped. But I still wanted more. The lights seemed weak.

I have sold the MB 123 since but just before I sold it, I experimented with LED lights and if you buy the red with as many LEDs on it that you can fit into the housing, you will have bright brake lights, for sure. You may have to do some adapting to get them inside the housing. But they do last a long time and they are very bright. Do not buy the white LEDs as they are not very bright through a red lense. But if you buy the red, they really stand out and people take notice of them.

I was pulled over last year for my fogs. They're not illegal, but Not to be used as running lights. At least where I am. I was informed to only use them in the FOG and as I would with high beems, i.e., turn them off for oncoming cars. He said they are too bright and cause a dangerous distraction, wtf? I thought. I didn't bother to cite the blinding motorcycle lights and other late model xenon's etc. BTW, they are stock hellas original to the car.

I love this idea for brighter brake lights. I will try this soon, as I have no third brake light and stock is rather dim. I think its a good mod to do as todays distracted drivers need to see your brake lights BRIGHT more than ever. I'm reminded daily on my hefty commute to the city...

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How are you fogs aimed? They should be low (lower than the low beams) to do any good in the fog.

Tradonguy - Can you tell us more about your success with installing LEDs as add-on brake lights... especially P/N(s) that specifically identify what you used... and your cost and source for such parts.
I've played around with various LED lighting projects and know there is a lot of "junk" out there!
Regards,

good point. I think they are too high. I've never used them in fog- never driven this car in fog by chance.

Anyone have pics of their LED coversions? installation to 'on the car'?

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I think you can only aim the ones in the front - not the back European fog lights. I actually saw one at Pick n Pull today.

I got my concern from reading the posts about damage to front wiring harness from high wattage bulbs in European headlights. I guess the fuse didn't protect them - why not?

It may be that the heat and current draw to that individual lamp (hi-watt euro lamp) is not high enough to actually blow a fuse, but is high enough to damage the wiring and harness leading to the light itself. Thats all I can think of....

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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

CR from Texas / PawoSD,
IF I remember correctly on these vintage MBZs, the headlights are NOT fused... but I could be wrong and I canNOT find my Haynes just now!
Regards,