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ForcedInduction 05-18-2007 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by libbybapa (Post 1509298)
I will be running a VNT-25 and don't feel like popping the intercooler.

If you mean a VNT25 from a 2.2L Shelby, it's too small for a 300SD.

libbybapa 05-18-2007 11:45 PM

No, I don't. I mean a VNT-25 from a European Opel 3.0L TD. I'm quite sure it's not at all too small, at least it's bigger than yours. :D

Andrew

ForcedInduction 05-19-2007 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by libbybapa (Post 1510101)
No, I don't. I mean a VNT-25 from a European Opel 3.0L TD.

I've got a nice little GT2256V for you if you want to trade. I'll pay the shipping for both. ;)

libbybapa 05-19-2007 09:46 AM

Thanks for the offer, but I'll stick with what I've got. It took me forever to get it. It's a brand new one from Germany. :D

So what's the max pre-turbine EGT?

Andrew

ForcedInduction 05-19-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by libbybapa (Post 1510294)
So what's the max pre-turbine EGT?

1250*f constant, 1400* for short bursts.

Deni 05-19-2007 06:05 PM

Have you guys done any modification to the fuel pump? Because as far as I know a 603 turbo engine's stock IP is good up to 180hp. Do you really need a larger turbo?

I wouldn't mind a working vnt turbo though, so I can still have the same peak hp (as much as the stock ip allows) but with extra torque down low.

rbardolv 05-20-2007 12:38 AM

whoa!
 
That sure is some nice little setups! I wouldnt mind the air to air setup myself with some water squirt nozzles in the front for hot days.. :D

Oh the days of my old 94' twin turbo supra.......:rolleyes:


Well grand national, neon srt-4, and turbo supras come to mind when looking for intercoolers.. What do you guys think?

bgkast 05-20-2007 02:57 AM

It's a tight fit for any air/air up there...if you want to keep the AC. The non-crossflow engine is also not conducive to an air/air setup IMO.

libbybapa 05-20-2007 12:05 PM

The Saab 9000 intercooler with some custom endcaps should sneak right in along with a slimline fan and still let the hood close. Also, as far as space goes, you either need to fit the air to air intercooler, or the extra radiator for the air to water setup. Seems like a wash to me.

Andrew

bgkast 05-20-2007 03:45 PM

The trick with an air/air is routing the 3 inch tubing back across the front of the car to the intake. It's much easier to route 3/4" coolant hose. The air/water also should give less lag because there is only about 6” of tubing needed.

ForcedInduction 05-20-2007 05:18 PM

3" tubing is overkill for 120hp. But if you can fit it, it won't hurt beyond a little lag.

2.5" is about optimum between flow capacity, space occupation and turbo lag. Especially with the stock intake, it will restrict it back down to 2.5" anyways.

I'm using 2" tubing for my air/air system. However, it will cause the turbo to surge at low RPM's from it's lower flow capacity.

Tymbrymi 05-20-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1511324)
I'm using 2" tubing for my air/air system. However, it will cause the turbo to surge at low RPM's from it's lower flow capacity.

So it didn't surge before the intercooler?

ForcedInduction 05-20-2007 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tymbrymi (Post 1511482)
So it didn't surge before the intercooler?

When I had a direct connection to the intake? No, it didn't.

Tymbrymi 05-20-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1511486)
When I had a direct connection to the intake? No, it didn't.

Interesting! Good to know...

ForcedInduction 05-23-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1511275)
The air/water also should give less lag because there is only about 6” of tubing needed.

In my upgrade to 2.5" tubes I will need:
75* angle tube- 1
45* angle tube- 1
90* angle tubes- 4

Total length from the turbo outlet to the intake mouth will be about 3.5 feet (Not counting the intercooler).


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