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Old 05-14-2009, 03:46 PM
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Remote located turbo

Like this company is doing http://ststurbo.com/ seems to be working pretty good. -on gassers though, but it should not make that big of a difference to a diesel.

Yes, I assume you guys are very sceptic, but has anybody tried it on a diesel? I guess not..., but any thoughts would be good.

There are quite a few advantages with this setup http://ststurbo.com/the_technology

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Old 05-14-2009, 04:18 PM
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I would say it's OK on gassers since you're not looking for the higher boost levels like you are on a Diesel.

You'd want to have the entire exhaust HPC or wrapped otherwise it would be "lag-o-licious"...

It looks like something designed for cars that don't have much room under the hood for turbo plumbing.
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:33 PM
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Remember it is the same amount of exhaust running through the pipe. The only difference seems tom me to be the internal flow friction.

Cuz swapping a fully dressed wet 500?lbs 603 into a light sporty car (1985 bmw 3series) will destroy the original handling characteristics. So a rearmount turbo would be a compromize between turbolag and handling.

Anybody know the distance between the cylinders on 60x`s?
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:38 PM
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It might work okay on a gasser but on a diesel it would cause high exhaust backpressure.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:53 PM
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It's a second rate setup, there is a reason no race teams or factory setups are this way.
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:02 AM
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Ask J. Leno ?

Even though it's IMPLIED ("LIED" is the key phrase) I'd be willing to bet Leno
does not have this kind of trash on any of his Autos.
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Even though it's IMPLIED ("LIED" is the key phrase) I'd be willing to bet Leno
does not have this kind of trash on any of his Autos.
He doesn't. In fact if you watch that episode he says he has never heard of the system before.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:41 AM
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The problem with remote mounting is most of the exhaust heat and velocity is dissipated by the time it gets back there. The turbo is left with little more than the gas volume to work with.
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Oki, thanks for clearifying

Anybody know the distance between the cylinders on the 60x?
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:19 AM
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Anybody know the distance between the cylinders on the 60x?
Buy a new exhaust manifold gasket and use that to take some careful measurements or to make a template.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:25 AM
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It might work okay on a gasser but on a diesel it would cause high exhaust backpressure.

yep, universal gas law PVT= PVT the reduction in temperature will decrease the volume proportional to the drop in temp, so if the exaust is 500 at the tail and 1500 at the manifold you effectively lose 2/3 of your volume, not to mention the pressure drop through the pipe
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yep, universal gas law PVT= PVT the reduction in temperature will decrease the volume proportional to the drop in temp, so if the exaust is 500 at the tail and 1500 at the manifold you effectively lose 2/3 of your volume, not to mention the pressure drop through the pipe
Exactly, it might work on a track where the whole exhaust system will heat up after a while. It still won't be at it's max efficiency though.

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