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12-16-2008, 10:22 PM
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Supercharger and Turbocharger in a Om617
thx to Cartek My mind is going crazy about superturbocharger, i was wanting to know what size or engine displacement size supercharger is suitable for a OM617.95 turbocharged, i know my 300SD has LOTS OF SPACE so a supercharger might be able to fit in there, anyways on a regular supercharger connects directely to the intake port right, but i cant put it in unless if i have modified the supercharger base, so my question is how do you make a supercharger connect to the turbo??? It has a rectangle shape so Do you have to take a metal plate (or make a metal box) with a 3 inch Diameter with an 5 inch in height pipe?? FIRST of all dose it benifits, will ruin the engine???
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12-16-2008, 10:24 PM
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you need this book
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12-16-2008, 10:26 PM
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If i can find one!
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12-16-2008, 10:30 PM
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Quote:
http://www.amazon.com/Maximum-Boost-Turbocharger-Engineering-Performance/dp/0837601606/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1229484605&sr=8-1
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12-16-2008, 11:58 PM
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Well first i have to find a supercharger, that might be a problem, what i am looking for is those MW90 form a Buick, they are cheap, its going to be lots of work and research, but first i have to rack up some $$$
 and lots of them  ,
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12-17-2008, 06:03 AM
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You don't really need to compound them unless you're going for higher boost levels. I don't know what the stock boost levels are for the 617 but the Eaton M90 I have alone would probably do the trick.
There are versions on Buicks, Pontiacs and Fords. The one I have is the least specialized in design and it came from a T-bird. I got my M90 off ebay for a little over $100. You can also find the larger Eaton M112 from a Ford Lightning truck and underdrive it. The real expense is in the fabrication of the intake tubing - lots of TIG welding.
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12-17-2008, 12:19 PM
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stock boost level on a Om617 is around 12 psi.
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12-17-2008, 05:05 PM
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Are you planning on parallel or serial operation? Parallel is the only thing that really makes sense, but the plumbing becomes a nightmare.
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12-21-2008, 02:19 PM
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Expect to pay around $200/hr for aluminum TIG welding, and that's assuming you have the stuff prepped and clamped in place when you drop it off at the shop.
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12-21-2008, 02:28 PM
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I know i am going to sound boring to you guys but i seen a turbo supercharger set up, and the engine didn't last long... after that it had serious blow by...... check these pictures for a set up reference.....
A guy from Germany did this.... to a R107 good luck tho i wish you make it work and make it reliable!!!!!! 
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12-21-2008, 03:54 PM
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looks more like the "green wagon" (Finland). The guy in Germany loves to have the pics on his homepage. Tom
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12-21-2008, 08:37 PM
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Actros,
If you're just looking to have a supercharger as a substitute for the stock turbo, the M90 will suffice. It will give you instant throttle response and snappier acceleration. But, as the others said, there's a lot of welding and fabrication involved in making a clean installation. This is in addition to the base cost of the SC. As I said, I got mine for about $140 including shipping but I really lucked out because at the time, nobody wanted that particular SC. Now I see them going for a couple hundred bucks. Unless you have your heart set on the SC, I think a VGT is a much more parctical upgrade. There are already guys here who have done them and can help you along.
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