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Old 01-27-2010, 11:34 AM
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I do specifically remember him saying he increased the modulator pressure.

come on, one more to break 6k?

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Old 01-27-2010, 12:51 PM
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I do specifically remember him saying he increased the modulator pressure.
That is probably very likely, I had just always been under the impression that there was alot more room for power from his dyno as he had never touched the turbo.

I didnt even notice 6k.....
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Ahh looks like someone dug up my old rig again! If you notice my dyno charts there are 2 power and torque lines. The 118rwhp run was with the stock wastegate settings on the stock turbo. I even run the stock air cleaner. The 145rwhp run was done by simply unhooking the wastegate hose, and that is the way I have left it for 3 years now. 150rwhp is nearly double what these cars put down unmodified stock and is a happy power level. I would definitely like to install my s200 turbo I bought and put it on the dyno again to see what it would do. Oh and if you are wondering a stock turbo with the wastegate unhooked runs close to 28psi!
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Unhooked or plugged?
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:06 AM
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Ahh looks like someone dug up my old rig again! If you notice my dyno charts there are 2 power and torque lines. The 118rwhp run was with the stock wastegate settings on the stock turbo. I even run the stock air cleaner. The 145rwhp run was done by simply unhooking the wastegate hose, and that is the way I have left it for 3 years now. 150rwhp is nearly double what these cars put down unmodified stock and is a happy power level. I would definitely like to install my s200 turbo I bought and put it on the dyno again to see what it would do. Oh and if you are wondering a stock turbo with the wastegate unhooked runs close to 28psi!
Thanks for clarifying that. BTW as 28psi you are almost certainly overrevving the turbo. S200 turbo?
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Unhooked or plugged?
The wastegate line is unhooked and the fitting on the comp cover is plugged to prevent a leak to atmosphere. I am certain that at 28psi the turbo is makeing tons of hot air and is near its limits. Fortunately it hasn't exploded from over reving, and it only sees 20psi+ for maybe 30seconds a week. It usualy runs no more than 15psi in normal driving.
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:43 PM
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did you have myna do the full work over on your pump? i was told they offer 3 stages of pump tweaking.
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Yes I did. Antti Arola fixed me up. I think that is how it is spelled don't totaly remember. Mine is the maxed out version and I am very happy with it. I have nearly 100,000miles on mine now.
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:37 AM
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ok so do you know what he said the pump could do hp wise for fuel? like the max it could make? im not talking other mods im just talking what it can handle not the motor.....i was told 300hp yes i know its a stretch and you of course need other stuff to get close but is the pump able to feed that much if you did have everything else it takes?
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Myna told me this "M-model pump with 7mm plungers is good for about 500 engine hp in 6 cylinder engine so in 5 cylinder it is should be good for about 400 engine hp." My pump is capable of 100mm^3/stroke at 5000rpm. According to my engineering design info assumeing you could harness all that energy at that speed you can make about 93.6hp/cyl. That means at most a OM617 5cyl could crank out 468hp at the flywheel. Therefore I think 400engine hp is probably a very reasonable estimate for a max effort setup.
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:35 PM
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so you think 210hp is a good SAFE number lol?
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I think so didn't the C111 run 210 or 230hp in its endurance run configuration? Besides I am probably pretty close to that. These cars are supposed to be 120fwhp but only dyno like 88 to the ground I read. That is a 36% loss, so take my 150rwhp and add 36% to it and you have a little over 200fwhp. It has been like that for over 100,000 miles now, so it must be safe.
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:16 PM
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I think so didn't the C111 run 210 or 230hp in its endurance run configuration? Besides I am probably pretty close to that. These cars are supposed to be 120fwhp but only dyno like 88 to the ground I read. That is a 36% loss, so take my 150rwhp and add 36% to it and you have a little over 200fwhp. It has been like that for over 100,000 miles now, so it must be safe.
well i want 160rwhp at the wheels so im thinking 210 or 225 should work.

my plan is IC and SLIGHTLY bigger turbo and 3" straight pipe. Thats it.
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Should be easy enough. I think with just a better turbo and no IC you could meet your 160hp goal. My rig when I dynoed last was 158rwhp and 230ft-lbs after cutting the exhaust off before the resonator. This wasn't really my plan, but the exhaust was falling apart and then a big snow storm pretty much mangled what was left so I fired up the torch and took it off. Afterwards I noticed it spooled much better so I swung by the shop one day to dyno it to see the gains and I picked up about 10hp and 20ft-lbs by just doing away with the stock exhaust.
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Do you have any bench data like quantity over control rod position of your IP?
Also interesting what pre lift is adjusted?
To provide 100mm^3 an effective stroke of 2.6mm is needed. This + pre lift gives total stroke from BDC to end of injection. To avoid "float" of roller on the cam of the IP end of injection has to end at 4mm plunger stroke (-0.3mm safety) (BOSCH book).

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