I know someone with one from a 280E, so yes, they do come that way.

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82 Benz 240 D, Kuan Yin
12 Ford Escape 4wd

You're four times

It's hard to

more likely to

concentrate on

have an accident

two things

when you're on

at the same time.

a cell phone.

www.kiva.org It's not like there's anything wrong with feeling good, is there?

I think I said it in another post, but someone has one in the classified here, unless it sold.
BTW the ones that are on the 230 717.401 are similar gl275 getrag but the starter hole is on the opposite side so they wont fit. They have identical internals. Also the 280sl 717.402 the most popular and available version has an electric speedometer drive with the starter in the correct place for a 617. You can swap the speedometer drive. I believe tail r&r would be in order for that. AFAIK standard mechanical speedo drive from most gear boxes of that same year will fit, including automatic transmissions. Always verify with a part numbers cross check. I have the diagrams and a good book for this gearbox if needed.

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84 280sl
82 300d euro

Yes sorry quite right, the later 230s had the M102 which had the starter on the other side (first of the newer generation engines)

I don't know if the early 230s with the M115 had 5 speeds as an option, maybe the 717.000 was

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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

I have a complete 240d with the 717.400. It is listed in the parts for sale section on this forum. Check out my ad,all the parts are there

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1983 240d 5Sp SOLD
1986 300D(LUCO) SOLD
1983 300TD(dreamboat)SOLD
1984 240d (Executive)SOLD
1984 240d (Euripides) SOLD
1982 300sd SOLD
1982 300sd (Ambas)SOLD

Where are you located, we should talk...

...and 280es.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

It's not worth it for the .13 reduction. Just stick with the 4speeds and be prepared for replacements. None of the diesel trans were torque rated for the turboed diesel. It would make more sense to put a 602 in and leverage the many manual.trans options the 60x gives you.

Good to know about the rating, thanks.

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All things are burning, know this and be released.

82 Benz 240 D, Kuan Yin
12 Ford Escape 4wd

You're four times

It's hard to

more likely to

concentrate on

have an accident

two things

when you're on

at the same time.

a cell phone.

www.kiva.org It's not like there's anything wrong with feeling good, is there?

So it's a bad plan to try and run the 4spd with an 8mm pump & methanol sprayers ?

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No merc at the moment

Best of luck.

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1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

This is an interesting point. The 4sp tranny's are cheap and readily available versus the 5sp which are very rare. The OPer's car is an 85' which means it has the one year 2.88 diff which is an excellent start.


------axle ratio- tire diameter- tranny ratio- veh speed- rpm
4sp--- 2.88------- 24.7----------- 1.0---------- 70mph--- 2742
5sp--- 2.88------- 24.7----------- .87---------- 70mph--- 2386

-----------------------------------------------------Difference 356
I never use 5th gear except on freeways, it cruises nicely at 2400 rpm's but 2800 wouldn't be that bad.

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I have read about the gl275 717 400 401 etc taking quite a bit of torque. On account one a 717.401, starter on left, was behind a modified 60x with over 400nm of torque. The other account is with the 717.404 , which has the same torque rating and grouping, behind a modified m103 16valve. The guy finally toasted his gearbox doing burnouts. These are pretty strong boxes I believe.
I have read the torque ratings on a few of the boxes from the straight four,five and six engines of the eighties to mid nineties and they all top out at 275nm although they will take a bit more. Im referring to the ones with designations of717.40x, 717,43x, 44x and so on. They are group gl76-27-5. i believe made by mercedes in house.

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84 280sl
82 300d euro