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Old 11-12-2005, 08:00 PM
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Precisely.
Ditto!!!

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Old 11-22-2005, 10:02 PM
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The R-Class is a pretty nice vehicle. I haven't driven it but I thoroughly checked it out at the Benz dealership. Sharp car in several aspects. Very expensive, but hey, those high rollers who have always driven fully loaded minivans now have a reason not to: just get the R-Class, a luxury minivan, though that's not what M-B sells it as.

M-B's expanded product portfolio is somewhat necessary for survival. A company can't stand stagnant forever with three or four product lines. Even BMW has expanded to hell, following M-B. With the arrival of the Japanese with luxurious vehicles with better reliability, similar perceived quality and feature content and much lower prices, M-B and Co. had to expand or go out of business. I can question how the expansion has been conducted and marketed, but not the necessity for it.
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In Spanish there is a saying that goes: "El que mucho aprieta poco abarca".

Which loosely translated goes something like: "Those who try to grab a lot don't have a good grip".

And that is the BIG mistake on Mercedes part. I know today a company has to diversify to survive in an ever changing world, BUT M-B should have stuck to its original three car line and the G.

If they wanted to add cheap-small econoboxes (like the A and the B classes), imitation off-roaders (like the ML) and ugly minivans (R), they should have created a separate line or brand (like they did with Smart).

I really don't mind, but most of my friends who own S-classes do get frustrated at the dealership when they have to share services in line with A and B classes.
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In response to your post, I'll take a sentence from my previous post as my reply to you:

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I can question how the expansion has been conducted and marketed, but not the necessity for it.
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Old 11-23-2005, 12:45 PM
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I've seen the R in person but not driven it. It has had good reviews.

IMO its too heavy and thirsty. It is great for transporting 5 or 6 people in luxury and safety. So is the Honda Odyssey but the R has more cachet.

Mercedes has a long history of many different types of vehicles, much more than the myopic view of "3 vehicle line" that some seem to have.

I don't see a problem now with reliability either, considering how complex all vehicles have become. My 2005 CDI is the most reliable and best Merc that I've had, and it now has 42,500 miles on it.

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