I'm still trying to see anything other than the Mercedes engine noise at start. I tried it with Adobe Reader 8. Nope. Removed and installed the on CD Acrobat Reader 5. Get looking for plugins. Browser can't find. Tried it with Mozilla Firefox browser. Also IE browser. Well I can't blame MB for that since everybody else is getting something. Voted quality lacking anyway even if it's my fault.

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1985 300D Turbo
"Evolution is God's way of giving upgrades" Francis Collins

I'm in the printing business and have been since 1977. The images in the original printed version (paper for you non-litho types) were junk to begin with, how on earth would you expect them to be any better after scanning?

I have the electrical schematic paper version for the 123 and the diagrams are fine, not perfect, but pretty decent. I haven't seen the electronic PDF version, but there were not that many images. It wouldn't have taken much effort to reshoot the electrical schematic version with new images.

After the pages were scanned the schematic lines probably got skinner and hard to read. They could have been cleaned up, but I doubt the factory is all that interested.

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84 300DT Puke Yellow. Totalled after 438,000
84 300DT Orient Red. 169,000 (actual mileage may vary)
2002 Explorer EB (wife's)

Take a look at ShawnD's screen shot. The original diagrams could not have been as bad as that scan -- no service staff anywhere in the world would have been able to make any use of them if they had been that bad. Basically, all the fine-pitch lines used to represent wires in the diagram have been lost. You can tell the major components, but absolutely nothing about how they are connected together.

You wouldn't be willing to do a nice grayscale scan of that diagram, would you?

The scan was done B&W with a threshold set so high that a lot of the thin lines are completely lost and went all-white (or some procedure equivalant to that). I've made that same mistake myself. Once the data is lost, there's no way to recover it. These days, when I make a scan, I do a grayscale, then drop that into photoshop and fiddle with the curve until I get the information visible but the noise not. It's time consuming and tedious, so I can totally understand why they didn't bother. However, including obviously unusable diagrams does indicate a lack of care about their workmanship. I mean, these are so bad that one doesn't even need to know how to read an electrical schematic to know they are not helpful.

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'83 300DTurbo http://badges.fuelly.com/images/smallsig-us/318559.png

Broadband: more lies faster.

To bypass all the Mercedes videos/acrobat reader checks, open Firefox (if you use a good browser) or Internet Explorer (if you need to install firefox)
and go to D (or your disk drive):\program\matrix6.htm
That goes to the model selection screen, from which you can do happy stuff.

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1984 300DT turbo 138k mi

Still hauling me to school and back.

Handy Site:
http://www.dieselgiant.com/

Ugh. That is crap! Guess they did a heckofa lot better job with the 126 manuals!

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1998 E300 +310,000K
1996 E300 +460,000K

Thanks for that. I'll try it tonight as my A/C compressor just locked up. Funny thing, now that it's about 102% humidity.

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1998 E300 +310,000K
1996 E300 +460,000K

perhaps the quality of the manuals follow the price of the cars? S-class being most expensive.

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82 300SD 145k
89 420SEL 210k
89 560SEL 118k
90 300SE 262k RIP 5/25/2010
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93 300E 195k

Neat -- thanks for the link!

How on earth would I expect them to be any better? Well, neither having seen nor having a copy of the original printed version, I wasn't making any sort of judgement on original vs. new -- I was making a judgement on usable vs. unusable. In any case, I wasn't expressing an expectation that the electronic version should be better than the original. BTW, I did attach a screenshot of the electronic PDF version in an earlier post in this thread, so you can judge for yourself.

Thanks, finally got it to work.
Looks like Mercedes spent more time making that car vrooom everytime you click on a new topic rather than making a decent manual. Makes me really appreciate this diesel forum. And thanks to all who have shared their knowledge so freely on this forum and to Phil for sponsoring it.

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1985 300D Turbo
"Evolution is God's way of giving upgrades" Francis Collins

When I first purchased my 300D, I knew that there was an AC issue......so I looked and purchased the MB AC/Climate Control Book.....for around $70 on e-Bay.......then I found the MB Classic Center and purchased the CD of the entire Library......so I never actually studied the AC section of the CD.....that particular area of the CD is the worst that I have seen in the entire Library.......I also looked and those schematics are not in the Electrical part of the CD.......but the Electrical part of the CD has way better schematics......

Whomever copied the Air Condition/Climate Control portion of the CD should be shot!!!! Or at least be re-educated.....musta been a refugee from the East......but all of the other books are definitely way better.....

Also of Note: While I was checking out the Technical Literature at MBUSA, I purchased Technical Data Passenger Cars, April 1985 Edition, in there you can find the color codes for the Vacuum Lines used in various applications...as well as the AC System.....I just looked to see if there was a useful schematic in there.....there isn't.....

Still, from the Title/Subject line of my original post "Whaddya want for 20 bucks...." is a valid comment......at between $70 and $100 per Service Manual Volume, the Library would cost between $350 and $500.......

SB

I use Opera to open my CD Library.......

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Diesels:
'85 300D, "Max, Blue Benz", 155K, 27.0 MPG
'84 190D 2.2, "Eva, Brown Benz", 142K, 40.2 MPG
'77 240D (parts car)
'67 Eicher ES 202 Tractor "Otto" (2cyl, Air Cooled, 30HP)
Gassers:
'94 Ford F-150, "Henry", 170K (300 Six) 17.5 MPG
'85 190E 2.3, 148K....Parts Car
'58 Dodge W300M Powerwagon (Flat Fenders) Less than 10 MPG

Thanks -- I really appreciate you saying so.

Sure, $20 is a "bargain" compared to the cost for the entire printed set. However, given that MB didn't have to create or edit any info, the only cost they had to eat in creating the files was cutting up an original manual and scanning the pages. Cutting up the manual would be the same cost no matter whether the scans were high-quality or low-quality, so the only difference would have been the extra time to create better scans. I'm sure that even if it took an intern/flunky an entire extra day (unlikely), the extra cost to do so wouldn't have been much. Heck, I'm sure some MB club members would have volunteered time for free to have been given the privilege of doing so.