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Old 07-24-2015, 05:58 AM
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Old 10-21-2015, 05:14 PM
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I mean the physical manuals you see for sale on E-bay?
The paper copies are superior and have more than what you get on the CD. However, you need multiple volumes. The Chassis/body is two volumes, I have that. It also includes electrical wiring diagrams (entire car on a big fold-out page) which don't have all the changes that happened throughout production. One would also need (I think my list is accurate) the appropriate engine manual, the transmission manual, the maintenance manual, the electrical troubleshooting manual, and the HVAC manual.

I have never subscribed to the WIS (workshop information system) on Startek, so I'm not sure if there is much for 123/124/126/201 and earlier cars.

I've heard that the 126 CD's have far more about the 617 engines than the 123 CD's.
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:18 AM
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@trout007

Bugger! I forgot you were looking for that information. I'll chase it up.

If you don't hear from me you need to chase me up!
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Old 10-22-2015, 10:19 AM
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The paper copies are superior and have more than what you get on the CD. However, you need multiple volumes. The Chassis/body is two volumes, I have that. It also includes electrical wiring diagrams (entire car on a big fold-out page) which don't have all the changes that happened throughout production. One would also need (I think my list is accurate) the appropriate engine manual, the transmission manual, the maintenance manual, the electrical troubleshooting manual, and the HVAC manual.

I have never subscribed to the WIS (workshop information system) on Startek, so I'm not sure if there is much for 123/124/126/201 and earlier cars.

I've heard that the 126 CD's have far more about the 617 engines than the 123 CD's.
Any chance of a list of the chapters in your paper volumes? Photo of the contents?

(Save me bothering someone else!)
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These links have been so helpful to me so many times! Thanks for them!
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:23 AM
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You're welcome geezer. Have you figured out how to make up your own URLs yet?
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:51 PM
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Note to self

https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/Engine/617/01-130.pdf

https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12265/disc_2/program/Engine/615/07-100.pdf
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:40 AM
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W123 OM617a (Turbo) Links to startek FSM

Well we'll see how this goes...


...it is pretty boring working out direct links to the startek PDFs but I find myself doing it so frequently these days I thought I'd post up the links in BB code (or what ever it is called).


I'm only doing this because lots of people (including myself) struggle with the crappy flash player on the startek site that stops us from getting to the PDFs


{All of the links I've been posting previously in this thread have been examples of how to work out the file positions on the startek server}


Here's the start of the FSM for the TURBO diesel W123


(I might get to finish this in the end but it takes ages and I can't always be arsed)


123.133 / 300D Turbodiesel Sedan

00 - Maintenance, service, technical data; General descriptions; Operating instructions; General considerations concerning service products (fluids, etc.); Jacking-up, towing-off, laying-up vehicle

123 Chassis Manual Introduction
Intro 617 Engine Manual Introduction
005 Instructions for use of serivice manual
005/1 Model and unit survey
005/2 Identification of vehicles
010 Technical Data
010 Model and system identification
010 Engine and vehicle identification
015 Vehicle identification number locations
015 Vehicle identification number locations
020 Technical Data
020 Technical Data
030 Technical Data
040 Technical Data
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:41 AM
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W123 OM617a (Turbo) Links to startek FSM Chapter 1

01 - Engine, removal and installation; Crankcase, cylinder head, engine breathing

010 Checking compression pressure
015 Checking cylinders for leaks
020 Evaluation of cylinder bores
025 Measuring oil consumption
030 Removal and installation of engine (oil capacity)
040 Engine breather -- functional description
110 Measuring, boring and honing cylinder bores
115 Renewing, boring and honing cylinder liners
120 Facing cylinder crankcase parting surface
130 Knocking-out and inserting steel balls for main oil ducts
140 Replacing core hole closing cover in cylinder crankcase
215 Removal and installation of front cylinder crankcase cover
220 Removal and installation of intermediate flange
310 Removal and installation of complete oil pan
405 Cylinder head bolts and tightening of cylinder head bolts
415 Removal and installation of cylinder head
417 Removal and installation of pre-chambers
418 Facing cylinder head parting surface
420 Pressure-testing cylinder head
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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 11-28-2018, 12:48 AM
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W123 OM617a (Turbo) Links to startek FSM Chapter 3

03 - Crank assembly

310 Checking, renewing and tightening connecting rod bolts
313 Reconditioning and squaring connecting rod
316 Removal and installation of pistons
318 Checking and reconditioning of crankshaft
320 Mounting of crankshaft
324 Renewing front crankshaft radial sealing ring
327 Renewing rear crankshaft radial sealing ring
340 Removal and installation of pulley, vibration damper and balancing disc
344 Static balancing of balancing disc
345 Checking and correcting adjustment of TDC transmitter
350 Removal and installation of crankshaft sprocket
410 Removal and installation of flywheel and driven plate
430 Renewing ring gear of flywheel
440 Statically balancing of flywheel
450 Instructions for full balancing of engine
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1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 11-28-2018, 12:55 AM
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W123 OM617a (Turbo) Links to startek FSM Chapter 5

05 - Engine timing, valves

210 Inspection and adjustment of valve clearance
215 Inspection and adjustment of camshaft timing
220 Removal and installation of camshaft
225 Grinding camshaft bearing journals
235 Removal and installation of rocker arms with rocker arm bearing brackets
240 Renewal of rocker arms and rocker arm bearing brackets
250 Removal and installation of valve springs
260 Checking valve springs
270 Replacement of valve stem seals
280 Checking and machining valves
285 Checking and renewing valve guides
291 Machining valve seats
310 Removal and installation of chain tensioner
320 Renewing timing chain
330 Removal and installation of tensioning rail
340 Removal and installation of slide rails
412 Removal and installation of intermediate sprocket shaft
440 Removal and installation of guide wheel
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1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 11-28-2018, 01:03 AM
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W123 OM617a (Turbo) Links to startek FSM Chapter 7

07.1 - Diesel injection system

001 Survey model -- engine -- inejection pump
010 Operation injection pump with governor
015 Operation engine-transmission overload protection
100 Adjustment of idle speed and idle speed adjuster
105 Checking maximum speed at no-load
108 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) with digital tester (RIV method)
109 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) (high pressure method)
110 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) (flow pressure method)
111 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) (position indicator RIV method)
114 Adjusting injection timing (begin of delivery) with digital tester (RIV method) -- following checkup
115 Adjusting injection timing (begin of delivery) (high pressure method) -- following checkup
116 Adjusting injection timing (begin of delivery) (position indicator RIV method) -- following checkup
135 Checking injection nozzles
137 Disassembly, cleaning, assembly and adjustment of injection nozzles
140 Venting injection system
145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve
150 Checking vacuum shutoff for leaks
200 Removal and installation of injection pump
201 Installation of injection pump (with locking screw)
210 Replacement of pipe connection, delivery valve or copper sealing ring on injection pump
220 Replacement of vacuum control unit at injection pump
230 Removal and installation of injection nozzles
235 Removal and installation of fuel pump
240 Removal and installation of injection timing device
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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 11-28-2018, 01:07 AM
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Note:

#1 All these links do is point to the official PDFs on the Mercedes Benz Startek website - if the links don't work then Mercedes have taken them down - they are in charge of their (copyrighted) material

So don't blame me if they are gone!

#2 The numbers in the FSM have gaps - for example: Chapter 2 probably exists in some FSMs but it does not exist in the W123 turbo diesel FSM so the numbering so far in the posts above is exactly what is available on the FSM CDs
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1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 05-17-2019, 02:01 PM
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OM61X NON TURBO chapter 7

07.1 - Diesel injection system

001 Survey model -- engine -- inejection pump
010 Operation injection pump with governor
100 Adjustment of idle speed and idle speed adjuster
105 Checking maximum speed at no-load
109 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) (high pressure method)
110 Checking injection timing (begin of delivery) (flow pressure method)
115 Adjusting injection timing (begin of delivery) (high pressure method) -- following checkup
135 Checking injection nozzles
137 Disassembly, cleaning, assembly and adjustment of injection nozzles
140 Venting injection system
145 Checking fuel pump and bypass valve
150 Checking vacuum shutoff for leaks
200 Removal and installation of injection pump
210 Replacement of pipe connection, delivery valve or copper sealing ring on injection pump
220 Replacement of vacuum control unit at injection pump
230 Removal and installation of injection nozzles
235 Removal and installation of fuel pump
240 Removal and installation of injection timing device
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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

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Old 12-29-2020, 06:16 AM
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Do any of these links for the startek w126 service manuals work anymore? Were they taken down? Any other sources?

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