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Check out this shop's handy work:

http://www.budsmuffler.com/performance.html

:-) neil

I don't think the E55 can run in the 12's stock but they can run in the low 13's out of the box. Maybe they could with drag slicks?

Here's a supercharged 210 E55 in the 11's:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E55-AMG-Timeslip-3171.html

Here are a mix of 210 and 211 E55's:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz--E55-AMG-Drag-Racing.html

Do you know of anyone that has had exhaust work performed on their 6.9 at this shop?

A stock W210 E55 AMG can run in the mid 13s, but not the 12s even with drag slicks.

A stock W211 E55 AMG can run in the 12s.

I have a document that I'll post that has all relevant MB performance figures from most notable cars from the past 30-35 years, but it doesn't include the W211 E55. BUt this data can be gotten from Road & Track. I'll add it all and post the results here tonight.

A W210 E55 AMG isn't terribly faster than a stock 500E -- hence my earlier "incremental" comment. The W211 E55 AMG is a significant performance departure from both predecessor cars.

Cheers,
Gerry

A stock 210 E55 can run low 13's stock on stock tires. Here's a link to a 13.209 second time slip. http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-E55-AMG-Timeslip-1978.html I'd bet with a set of slicks he could break into the 12's.

The 210 E55 is significantly quicker than a stock 124 E500. A stock E500 does 0-60 in around 6.0 to 6.5 and an E55 does the same feat in 4.8 to 5.2 seconds.....that's significant. The E500 stock 1/4 mile is 14.2 to 14.6 and the E55 is 13.2 to 13.8 depending on the track, driver, ETC. You wouldn't say that is significant or am I missing something?

No argument that the W210 E55 AMG times are better. What I said was that they are "incrementally" better than the 500E -- I would consider anything within a (real-world time of) 1 second to be incremental performance increase. The W211 cars are more of a step up. And I am not talking 0-60 at all, rather 1/4 mile times only.

My best experience with a stock 500E is 14.02 seconds on street tires, in cold weather (35 degrees). 14.2 times are easily repeatable even in the hottest weather. On nitrous, with drag radials: 12.89 seconds in cold weather.

W210 cars are safely in the mid-13s.

I'll get the promised doc tonight and post the "official" times for all of the cars. These are based on magazine tests which are probably more reliable/generalized than one-off timeslips (such as my 14.07 time in my E500, which I wouldn't say is real-world. Dave Meimann got into the high 13s in a (relatively stock) E500.

Cheers,
Gerry

A W210 e55 doesn't wheelspin enough to benifit from slick. Even with esp/asr off you can only get a squeak.
The 211? Well, they light up even with 5 guys in the car!!
Also, remember that the power/time increases exponentially, that is, if a 211 e55 does a 12.9 1/4 with 350kw, it will not do middle 6's with 700kw. The 3 10ths of a second from 13.2 down to 12.9 is enourmous in power terms and the 210 e55 already puts down it's power quite efficiently even with stock tyres.
It takes 5000hp to get a top fuel over the line in low to middle 4 seconds.

Sounds like you need an new MAF. My E55 will smoke the tires if I stand on the gas without ESP.....as long as the car is straight. I can lay down a set of tread marks to 40 mph. Something must be seriously wrong with that 210 E55 if it won't light the tires up with close to 400 lb-ft of tq.

Here you go:

http://homepage.mac.com/gerryvz/MBperf.pdf

In addition, here some other stats on the newer cars........

Current stats (Road & Track) for a W211 E55 AMG:
0-60: 4.2
1/4 mile: 12.4 @ 116.4


W211 E500:
0-60: 5.9
1/4 mile: 14.4 @ 98.8

(the current E500 is roughly equivalent to the old 500E in these stats)


W210 E55 AMG:
0-60: 5.6
1/4 mile: 13.7

Notice that the W210 E55 figures are roughly 3-4 tenths of a second better than a 500E. This is why I say "incrementally" better vs. the "dramatically" better (1+ seconds above the W210 E55; 1.5+ seconds better than the 500E) figures of the latest W211 E55 AMG.

Cheers,
Gerry

"W210 E55 AMG:
0-60: 5.6
1/4 mile: 13.7"

Here is an exerpt from a Motor Trend article on the 210 E55:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0204_m5/index.html

Here's another Motor Trend article that says the 210 E55 runs 0-60 in 4.8 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 13.3:
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_9912_bmwm5/index2.html

Heck, I think the factory even conservatively rated the 210 E55 at 13.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile but as evidenced by the drag slips I posted they can run in the low 13's stock.

Well, there are so many variables in drag times that it's impossible to say what the right time is. Again, I'm just going on what I found in some research -- I didn't make the numbers up.

I also wouldn't quote my 14.02 "best" 1/4 mile time for my own stock E500, nor my 12.89 "best" N2O time, as "typical" times for the breed. In general, I would put "typical" 1/4 mile times at 0.2-0.4 seconds slower.

I'm not going to quibble on numbers anymore -- any number I come up with from a legitimate source, someone can find a better one. By the same token, any time I quote for a 500E, someone will come up with a slower one. I saw magazine times of 14.6-14.7 seconds and that is DEFINITELY slower than times that I know that people with stock cars have achieved.

Cheers,
Gerry

I've driven at minimum, a dozen different W210 e55's. They won't light up from a flat foot standing start. Perhaps out road surfaces are different in Oz?
Even the W211 on our roads doesn't light up imeadiately. First a little squeaking, then she breaks traction and spins. I've left 140metres of black without any brake in a W211 e55.
I've also had the furtune to drive an SL65. Wheelspin at 70mph anyone?

The Motor Trend article was talking about the 210 E55. Read: "the E55 was all too happy to smoke them at the starting line." Once again, if you can't light up the tires on an E55 with ease, there is something wrong with your 210 E55. No need to power brake. Maybe the Australian version 210 E55 was in some way detuned?

Maybe Australian Design rules specify stickier standard rubber? Our E55's are 260kw per spec sheet. I assume yours are the same?

Honestly, they won't smoke without brakes.

Sounds about right on the KW and 530 NM. I don't know why it won't smoke the tires. Maybe my E55 and all the ones they tested in the magazines were specially modified by the factory. Just kidding, mine is stock as were the ones they tested. Maybe you were running the car in 115+ degree weather :sun_smile . I don't know if I could smoke them in that heat but it is no problem in normal temps.

The only think I can think of is that the car had drag radials, the outside temp/road temp was extremely hot, or that the car was defective. :confused: