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Old 04-21-2000, 08:12 PM
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As a moral booster and for bragging purposes, I think we should tell each other about the various victories in the road or the track that we had. I know that Lee and his 500E have pants quite a few inferior vechicles, but how about we exchange some of our stories.

Oh and sorry that I don't have any stories, my 300E gets smoked by Ford Taurus's. But that will change when I get a E55.

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Old 04-21-2000, 10:12 PM
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uh i smoked a camaro the other day =)

we were at the light, he was revving his engine and i was like hmmm you must be joking mr z28 but anyway, i shifted into first, so i could keep up a little, the light turned green and i could hear his tires peeling out. the next thing i knew, he was a little ahead of me but someone had just turned onto that street in his lane! that's my story, i gg now! hehe later

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Old 04-22-2000, 10:36 PM
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You would be suprised what you can actually "beat" with good driving. The car is only a tool. If the other driver is slack, ignorant, too anxious, etc it is easy for them to make enough of a mistake for a well-driven slower car to overtake a poorly driven car that is theoretically quicker. The pony crowd set often looses a ton of groud simply because they get too aggressive with the gas/clutch/etc off the line and loose a bunch of time killing the tires. In running timed testing with a G-tech (and an ASR defeatable car) you can loose way over a second 0-60 with such antics. For the most part you want a hint of wheelspin for the first couple feet but after that you want those things helping you accelerate. (at least by the times I have seen with the G-Tech) The less dramatic way seems to be faster but that hold true with cornering as well. The smooth line around a corner is easier on the machine and quicker overall than threshold braking/powersliding/etc. (in most situations) Granted you can use tactics like that to correct a cornering line but if you are on the right line to begin with...

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Old 04-22-2000, 11:40 PM
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Lee, I apperciate your advice, and hope that you didn't get insulted by the fact that I said "Lee and his 500E) as in possibly implying that Lee only beats many cars because of the power of his car. Lee, you are very knowledgable and a great driver ( considering you drive at 160mph and beat other cars) Otherwise I set this post up to make share some stories about the cars that various mbz owners/drivers have encountered on the road and "pants"

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Old 04-23-2000, 06:44 AM
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My best story is with a Porsche Carrera 4 model 99. Was on the highway at 180km/h when he wanted to overtake me. I let him do so, he was smiling because he thought that I couldn't keep up. I went back on the lane behind him. He was accelerating like an *******, at 230km/h I was still behind him and did put my blinking signal, he was still trying but had to let me go. He simply couldn't keep up. That was real fun during 30min at 250 - 255km/h and that Carrera 4 can't go faster than 250...

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Old 04-23-2000, 12:26 PM
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Adamou,
Forgive me, but surely you must have some other juicy high speed stories to share? You see, being in the, "Land of the Free" where the Highway speed limit is 55 mph in many area's and 70 mph at best, these experiences are hard to come by over here. Sadly, many of us have never driven our car's to their engineered limits and dream of high speed touring (I myself am one)J! Just going over 110-120 mph is risky here due to road conditions, and there are huge risks to our driving privileges for doing so.

I will also second Lee's comment on Driver skill is most important! When I was younger, I would race anything that moved, and was never fortunate enough to have owned a fast car. But let me tell you, I've have my share of grin's at catching Vette's and Mustang's by surprise and blowing there door's before we reach 3rd gear or by the next intersect. It's definitely in planning, if you anticipate a race, downshift, put the engine in it's sweet spot, you have to give yourself a chance and be ready.


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Old 04-23-2000, 01:28 PM
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I've not run my car that many times...most people just back off, presumably because they don't know what my car is (de-badged 500E) and aren't sure if they want to find out.

However, there's always Trigger to be counted on....why do Mustang owners think their cars are so fast (I owned one of the original 5.0s, an '82 black on black...best holeshots ever, but not very fast)??

Cruising down to CT from NH a few months back (averaging around 90-100, which I'm sure other 500E owners will agree is loafing)a Mustang I believe with a blower was merging onto the freeway from the lefthand side. Because I was overtaking traffic I was already in the left lane, so I slowed down to let the Mustang on. Well, he gets on and only brings it up to 65 or so, but won't relinquish the left lane! I tried the blinker, I hung back off his left flank, but he wouldn't move. I never flashed my lights, though; too rude, and if a person needs that much of a hint they're clueless anyway.

In any event, the center lane opened up, I flipped on my turn signal and went to the center. Well, just as I did so the Mustang started to shake, made a bunch of noise and tiny puffs of smoke came from the tailpipes...so I figured he wanted to run. Well, if you boot a 500E at 65 MPH it jumps immediately into third in the fat part of the cams and then takes off like a shot. Which is precisely what I did. It was like the 'stang threw out a boat anchor!! I was at 125+ before he figured out his trousers were around his ankles...I tried to get him to play some more, but he promptly got off the next exit. Probably on the way to his speed shop to figure out why his blower was broken...

As to running the car at the 1/4, I've beaten a bunch of Mustangs (icl. a Cobra and an '92 with a blower, which I beat by almost a second!), a couple of Z28s, a Type R Integra and, believe it or not, an E55. The E55 was relatively new, though, so maybe it wasn't broken in.

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Old 04-23-2000, 02:42 PM
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Well, I have beaten a couple of stangs, not that many, but a good portion of the old 80's V8 at High-way speeds. The best thing I love about our 2.6 is that It starts in 1st, and I can shift her into the gear I want. on I-95 up in philly, I guy with a 5.0 mustang convertible comes on the off ramp and cuts all the way left in front of me. So I slap it down to 3rd and went right and I started taking pulling ahead. I think the stang kept up well, but considering my car is a 2.6 his a 5.0. Big difference Anyways he pulled back and got into the right lane to follow I95 south while I was taking I495 back to Delaware. I wonder what gear he was in? All I know is when I got about 2/10 a mile in front of him, the guys in his car weren't complaining

As for the ML430, Nobody would think an SUV could haul like that, Especially at high speeds with its 5-speed auto. The only thing to beat me off the mark is a 5.9 or the new 4.7 Grand Cherokees. But if I am even moving a little, like 10mph, and one comes up to me, the poor guys who try (and I have had one girl try to race me) get blown every time. I love the V8. And just hearing her on is more pleasing then any other V8 I have heard. Lets say the only thing I haven't come across yet is a X5. I am pretty sure it could beat me, but if its wet outside, I think I have the edge with my ESP and the most advanced 4wd system in the world!!!



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Old 04-25-2000, 11:44 PM
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Fellow rabids...the seasoned among you probably remember the "How Hard Have YOU Pushed Your Benz" thread as this one strikes similar chords. For those who never posted to or read that thread you might want to run a search (top right of screen).

To agree with Michael, 500E's are ungodly wicked. Mine chewed up most everything it ever ran accross. Among the more distinguished victims: 4-cam Stang Cobras, Camaroaches, C5's (one of the greatest perverse pleasures of 500E ownership), NOPI's galore, 540i's, E34 M5, M3's, GS400's (gawd those owners lost their **** when toasted by the 500E), even a Porsche 993 (dead heat until triple digits where power-weight becomes less important than power-aero drag when the 500E started pulling away). Only thing that every beat me badly was a Mallet 435 Vette.

The C36 will tango with most of those, but not all, and certainly not to the degree the 500E did. It is fast for a sports sedan, the 500E was just plain fast for anything. Finding a 6.0 500E would catapult one seriously into the supercar leagues... Than again, so would twin-turbos or a blower on a C36...

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Old 04-26-2000, 02:04 AM
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Sorry but I must ask, what is a rabid? I've seen it but haven't guessed correctly yet.

Also, I am sad to admit it, but I must inform the Group that, I too, have been bit by the 500E bug. Currently I comb the newspaper classifieds for hundreds of miles around, looking here and there for something within my range. I spend hours looking for something to quench the need for speed. Very few cars can sucessfully pull this off for years and even decades at a time, yet it is true, I have found the ONE, within a month or two I should have it within reach!!

Wish me luck.



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Old 04-26-2000, 11:48 AM
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"How Hard Have You Pushed Your Benz"...hm...sounds like my post a while back..

Anyways, my most recently encounter is a '95 Mustang GT(hm, always mustange eh...I wonder why?). We were both stopped at the light side-by-side, I was on outter lane(because that pony was gonna turn left, but somehow, he decided to go straight), and he's in inner lane. When the light went green, I slowly accelerate, waiting for him to go on so I can merge into the lane. And guess what?? He still tries to drive side-by-side with me(there are cars park on the side of the road about 100 meters up front). So, up to 45km/h, I decided to take some action(I usually leave tranny in 3rd in traffic/city driving). I look at him, and nail the throttle. Both of us accelerate like crazy, but either he's too aggressive as Lee mentioned, or simply can't drive a stick, I dusted him with 2 car advantage.

I have encounter so many ppl(some Acura, mostly Pony, Toyota or Souped up Honda, all young guys who think the speed limit of 60 is WAY too slow for them)trying so hard to make me run into parked cars on the side of road...they either run side-by-side with me, or cut in without signaling....ARG...

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Old 04-26-2000, 12:43 PM
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I have read tremendous amount of post here about the E500/500E but have never seen one...until last evening. This monstrous of a vehicle was park outside Postrio here in S.F., sandwiched between a Polar Silver 993 Cab. and a debadged black SL. What a beautiful sight it was. I almost forgot to chew my food at times. The E500 is truely a car lives up to its reputation.

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Old 05-04-2000, 09:32 PM
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I pants a cadilac Catera, the other day on ocean parkway. We were running about even when he gunned his engine on a straightaway, well then I fire walled the throttle and the benz just blasted past 70-80-90-100-110-120-130 and the caddie was long gone.

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Old 05-04-2000, 11:50 PM
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The 2000 Catera Sport is very nice. I am thinking about trade in my Jeep GC for one. Anyways, Catera wasn't meant to be sports car. It only has 200hp/193lb-ft. It's a very nice mid-size family sedan, with German build quality. But performance suffer from some-what small engine.

Well, HSV GTS is another story though.

http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/gts/gts2000.htm

P.S. In case you don't know, Catera is based on Opel Omega, which is also the base platform of HSV GTS.

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Old 05-08-2000, 09:39 PM
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I don't believe the 300E was designed to be a high performance car either. Either can be tuned but I'll put my money on the 300E. Tuned vs tuned gets harder to judge. If you want to go high performance model to high perfomrance model I believe the high performance model E-class was called 500-something or other. The exploits of THEIR capability is well known.

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