Started my motor Swap - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

LiVn_It_UP · #1 08-10-2006, 10:14 PM

Started my motor swap Yesterday.. here's a few picture's (battery died in camera)... replaced alot of old part.. put in a 16 valve Steering box..

300EVIL · #2 08-10-2006, 11:04 PM

WOW! Looks really good! Did you use the M104 motormounts or fab your own? Good intake placement too. Are you using the factory ECU? Good work. Keep us posted.
Thanks!
Adam

LiVn_It_UP · #3 08-10-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 300EVIL

WOW! Looks really good! Did you use the M104 motormounts or fab your own? Good intake placement too. Are you using the factory ECU? Good work. Keep us posted.
Thanks!
Adam

used the m103 (2.6) brackets/mounts, bought new motor mounts from the dealership. yeah i decided to use the Factory ECU

jfilipcic · #4 08-11-2006, 07:43 AM

Looks good.
Are you putting in the 3.2L or 3.6 AMG engine in?
Joe

LiVn_It_UP · #5 08-11-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jfilipcic

Looks good.
Are you putting in the 3.2L or 3.6 AMG engine in?
Joe

the 3.2

LiVn_It_UP · #6 08-11-2006, 08:09 PM

took some more pictures today

JasonOne · #7 08-13-2006, 12:22 AM

Where did you get the motor? I just bought a 1988 300CE and almost bought a high mile AMG 190E. The 300CE was cheap so I got that for now. I have access to two motors for the CE. Was wondering if building one into an AMG in my spare time would be the way to go. Any thoughts? Did you buy the 3.2 motor from an engine builder? Where did you find it? ANG does not provide these, correct? I will back check you're posts before these photo posts to see if you posted about anything relative to my questions.
That's a great looking shop you have to work in too. And the car looks smashing. Best of luck with the motor swap. Very nice work indeed.

Best,
Jason

engatwork · #8 08-13-2006, 09:06 AM

Good looking job. What car are you putting it in - I can't tell by the pics.

LiVn_It_UP · #9 08-13-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonOne

Where did you get the motor? I just bought a 1988 300CE and almost bought a high mile AMG 190E. The 300CE was cheap so I got that for now. I have access to two motors for the CE. Was wondering if building one into an AMG in my spare time would be the way to go. Any thoughts? Did you buy the 3.2 motor from an engine builder? Where did you find it? ANG does not provide these, correct? I will back check you're posts before these photo posts to see if you posted about anything relative to my questions.
That's a great looking shop you have to work in too. And the car looks smashing. Best of luck with the motor swap. Very nice work indeed.

Best,
Jason

i bought a wrecked 94 E320 (not an amg).. bought the car from Ridesafely.com they sell wrecked cars around the usa.. it's my dads shop (he works on Semi-trucks.. the part the car is in is a garage off the shop)

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Originally Posted by engatwork

Good looking job. What car are you putting it in - I can't tell by the pics.

thanks.. it's going in a 190E

Kozuka · #10 08-17-2006, 06:46 AM

Hey livin_it_up, I'm thinking of doing this swap on my 1985 190E 2.3 8v.

Any advice you would like to give? If I get the 2.6L motor mounts (actually I think the 2.3 and 2.6 mounts are the same) will it just bolt up into my bay? Do I have to change any of the fuel system? Does the Automatic tranny from the E320 bolt up using the mounts from either the 320 or the 190's? What will I have to change cooling system wise (or further more what parts do I have to rip out of the 320 to get it all working)? Any driveshaft problems (does the stock 190 or 320 driveshaft connect to both the tranny and the Rear Dif)? Any special custom parts needed for this swap? Any possiblity that the 16v Getrag 5spd mounts up to the 3.2L?

Whos your mechanic thats doing the ECU wiring (I personally dont want the headache)

Can you pull the motor out of any 94-97 E320 or only the 94?

Anything else that you think anyone should know before attempting this swap?

Thanks, I await your response.

Kozuka

LiVn_It_UP · #11 08-29-2006, 06:55 PM

Got all the kinks worked out today accept the transmission wont go into 4th... i still have to put the hood, bumper and dash and everything else back on.. but the electric nightmare is over.. drove it down the road a few times today, and i'm still grinning, this thing is fast.. here some pictures (yeah they kinda suck, but it was dark and i didn't use the flash)..

had the exhaust ran today put the Remus back on.. the guy who ran the exhaust asked me if i wanted a cat, so needless to say it doesn't have one.. my dad redline my tach and 7 grand said it still had some pedal (sounded badas*)

LiVn_It_UP · #12 08-29-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kozuka

Hey livin_it_up, I'm thinking of doing this swap on my 1985 190E 2.3 8v.

Any advice you would like to give? If I get the 2.6L motor mounts (actually I think the 2.3 and 2.6 mounts are the same) will it just bolt up into my bay? Do I have to change any of the fuel system? Does the Automatic tranny from the E320 bolt up using the mounts from either the 320 or the 190's? What will I have to change cooling system wise (or further more what parts do I have to rip out of the 320 to get it all working)? Any driveshaft problems (does the stock 190 or 320 driveshaft connect to both the tranny and the Rear Dif)? Any special custom parts needed for this swap? Any possiblity that the 16v Getrag 5spd mounts up to the 3.2L?

Whos your mechanic thats doing the ECU wiring (I personally dont want the headache)

Can you pull the motor out of any 94-97 E320 or only the 94?

Anything else that you think anyone should know before attempting this swap?

Thanks, I await your response.

Kozuka

Sorry for the delay been busy finishing it..

2.6 motor mounts is what i used, also have to use the bracket (sits the motor up further).. it bolts up.. have to get new fuel lines or bend yours (not the whole fuel line)

the E320 transmission bolts up.. i switch the tail shaft out.. i used the 2.6 transmission mount.. the 16 valve Getrag will bolt up to the m104... but you will need a clutch and flywheel for a six cylinder (190E 2.6 or 300E)...use the 190E Driveline.. no custom parts needed

the 2.6 radiator sits further up then the other 190E's

my dad (he owns his own business, diesel mechanic works on semi's) did all the wiring for me.. didn't really trust any of the shops around me.. one shop wanted to charge me 15 hours to pull the dash.. i did it in an hour an half

i highly recommend you find a donor car, you need alot of piece's. i purchased my Wrecked E320 off Ridesafely.com for 2 grand with the tow bill (was local)

for the swap like i did, the 93 300E (make sure it's a 3.2 cause they also had 2.8 liter m104's) 94-95 E320's

here's a wiring diagram we had used

http://www.sg-motorsports.com/HFM_Diagrams.htm (Thanks SG MotorSports)

EliotW · #13 08-30-2006, 09:16 PM

You've done beautiful work with your engine swap

looking forward to seeing your performance figures.

taint · #14 09-03-2006, 08:03 PM

hey man glad to see your conversion is going well, are you using the donor cars diff cause the 320e diff has a higher diff (can't remember what it is but you will notice the differance over the 2.6 version) and will give you better accelaration times, and if you are using the 5 speed autobox you still get good highway crusing speeds

dkveuro · #15 09-03-2006, 08:48 PM

Wish I had the time to do stuff like that....looks like a neat install...BTW....Who's strut, camber adjustable mounts/brace are those ?

FWIW...just installed a new motor in a Acura that had a low mounted cold air induction system.....he drove through a 6 inch puddle !

Be careful.....get a bulge installed just up from the filter, it prevents road water from being vacuumed into the motor.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0104scc_aem_air_bypass_valve/

AEM Air Bypass Valve

AEM Air Bypass Valve is for use on AEM Cold Air Induction Systems only.

AEM's Air Bypass valve for Cold Air Induction Systems virtually eliminates the unlikely chance of water ingestion should the filter element become wet from deep puddles, rain, hail, sleet or snow or any other scenario in which the filter element could encounter or become submerged in water. The valve installs along the upper portion of the inlet pipe on the same axis as the throttle body centerline. Should a drop in pressure occur within the pipe due to filter submersion, the valve shuts down induction at the filter and routes incoming air through its external orifices, eliminating any chance of water ingestion. AEM's Air Bypass Valve is for use on AEM Cold Air Induction Systems only. Patent Pending.

All Bypass Valves: $45

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