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PUMPISH 12-29-2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by altz (Post 1371499)
Ok...so the m103 is bulletproof..:D I didnt quite understand, did the 560hp came with stock rods & pistons?
Is the head heavily ported?

Yes 560Hp with stock rods & pistons and every engine parts is original and I just tortured the engine with 8000RPM all the time so M103 is ROCK
I just wanted to see how much the original engine can make hehe
Everything is just about engine system, if you can control fuel and ignition then you can make some power, good ingition curve is very impotent

Ortolan 12-30-2006 06:21 AM

Do you think there will be any problems boosting a 3.6L M104 to 400hp using an Autronic SMC ECU?

Racing 12-30-2006 06:29 AM

Just like Roman says...
It´s more or less all about engine management.
As long as you keep out of detonation(Ie;keep timing conservative) it comes down to total system flow.
As for innards,again..as long as you keep out of detonation the OEM stuff will carry a LONG way.

Btw.
Have worked with the autronics on occasions and they´re really good systems.

PUMPISH 12-30-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ortolan (Post 1372006)
Do you think there will be any problems boosting a 3.6L M104 to 400hp using an Autronic SMC ECU?

Yeah just like racing says autronic is very good system!
You should realy use autronic

Yes 400hp would not be any problem, with autronic and turbo you get up to 400hp with 0,5bar and stock compression.

What kind of turbocharger do you think to use?

Ortolan 12-30-2006 09:49 PM

I'm thinking of using a Garrett T04B 62-1 if I buy the complete turbo kit from this thread:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1270977-turboing-300-coupe.html
The performance target is 0-100km/h in <=5.0sec with stock 722.358 auto gearing and 3.07 rear ratio. How much power will I need to achieve this?

Racing 12-31-2006 06:28 AM

Are we talking the kit in the pictures,or the english based kit last in the text?

Ortolan 12-31-2006 10:21 AM

The one in the pics. It's a custom job.

PUMPISH 12-31-2006 10:46 AM

ok...I have seen these pictures and for me it looks likes more low budget homemade turbokit. Not so good advertising to show out rust pipes and intercooler outside the spoiler.

But I am sure that maybe it works fine and good job as homebuiling kit.
But not good as a market product

altz 12-31-2006 12:19 PM

Despite of the power its makeing, it has to be bling-bling too. :D
This is a sweedish way of tuning cars, I love it.

PUMPISH 12-31-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ortolan (Post 1372615)
I'm thinking of using a Garrett T04B 62-1 if I buy the complete turbo kit from this thread:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1270977-turboing-300-coupe.html
The performance target is 0-100km/h in <=5.0sec with stock 722.358 auto gearing and 3.07 rear ratio. How much power will I need to achieve this?


By the way how much cost this kit and what parts include?

PUMPISH 12-31-2006 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by altz (Post 1373059)
Despite of the power its makeing, it has to be bling-bling too. :D
This is a sweedish way of tuning cars, I love it.

Yes i love "bling" BUT it doesnt need to be very blinky as long is not rusty and buckled :D

Racing 12-31-2006 02:06 PM

Å Roman.
Eftersom d nu skrivit om vårt svenska sätt...så skriver jag detta mest för att förvirra dem..så de inte hajar att vi e BÄST! :D

Speedtek 12-31-2006 05:11 PM

I agree the stock M103 can handle 600hp on stock parts. Just too bad the rest of the drivetrain can not.

Ortolan 12-31-2006 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PUMPISH (Post 1373085)
By the way how much cost this kit and what parts include?

Turbo, wastegate, manifold, intercooler, piping, 3" bent mandrel exhaust for US$2400.

Joreto 01-17-2007 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PUMPISH (Post 1371589)
Yes 560Hp with stock rods & pistons and every engine parts is original and I just tortured the engine with 8000RPM all the time so M103 is ROCK
I just wanted to see how much the original engine can make hehe
Everything is just about engine system, if you can control fuel and ignition then you can make some power, good ingition curve is very impotent

What boost level did you run ?

P.S. ooop never mind found the answer between the pictures - "
20 degree with 1,7 bar "
:D ... the stock internals can handle quite a bit of boost :thumbup:


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