I asked John Pearson if the kit would fit this engine as I was going to buy a 3.6 for the conversion & swap my current engine. He told me that the kit is not suitable for the 3.6 - he couldn't remember why, but was quick to say no...

It's an M104 variant, but probably the AMG modifications exclude it.
Parts, as I stated before, can mechanical bolt on to the block.
More then likely the problem would be in the engine/fuel management modifications.

I've read somewhere in the past that it's not a good idea to do turbo's or superchargers on an engine with a performance cam. Can't remember the reason. Maybe that's the case with the 3.6L version. I'm sure it can be done, but the number of 3.2L engines vs 3.6L engines out there not to mention the number of people will to customize a 3.2L vs a 3.6L. I've got a write up somewhere on a "one off" twin turbo-ed C36, maybe there's some info there that would help. I'll dig it up and post it later.

Never-the-less, my kit arrived yesterday..... can't wait to get it installed.

Found them

has anyone got any idea how where i can get new silicone hoses for my twin turbo w124 coupe?

all the old ones are perished or have holes in

ive been to samco but obviously they dont have a listing for mercedes!

or if i remove the old parts will they hve serial/part numbers on them

If it is a TurboTechnics installation as you state, contact John Pearson in the Parts Department of Hughes of Beaconsfield (tel: 01494 672141).
Hughes was the installing Mercedes dealer in the early nineties of the kits.
John has indicated that they still maintain spares for the cars.

The only hoses that may be difficult to obtain from other then Hughes are the blue wrapped hoses from the turbo output to the intercooler as they are molded to shape.

The hose from the intercooler to the intake plenum is 2-1/4" I.D. and the hoses from the air filter assembly to the turbo intake are 2" I.D.
These can be replaced with a general purpose silicone coated fiberglass duct hose (rated -75 Degree F to 500 Degree F.) This type of flexible hose is available in the USA from industrial supply houses for about $11.00 per lineal foot.

thanks for that info

ive emailed TT and hughes but no response as yet

ive got around £1,000 set aside to get all the hoses replaced and get it set up and running correctly

then new wheels and a full respray as silver is an ugly colour

and have my AMG kit taken from GFP 2 to GFP 3 when im having it sprayed

Best to call John Pearson @ Hughes as he sometimes doesn't respond quickly to emails.
TurboTechnics is no longer in the business of providing or supporting spares for their Turbo kits.
Hughes recently was selling off complete new kits for only 1000 pounds sterling !!!

Received mine in the USA last month and now undergoing installation.

I would think the cost of replacement hoses should be under 150 pounds sterling.

Does anyone have an approximate estimate (time and money) for an install and tuning ? Target is a 3.2L M104 motor on a 1993 300CE/320CE.

Sounds like Willow Automotive in Chicago is one dealer.

Thanks - Manuel

Willow is not a dealer but an installer.
I sent the car over a thousand miles to this shop as they are one of the few left that have experience on twin turbo installs on the M103.
Most shops won't work on a M103 or M104 (which you have) as they do not have "sophisticated" control systems and full electronic injection systems.

The kit will cost approx $3000.00 delivered to your door.
Estimate around forty hours labor, so about $7000.00 installed.
The install should add a minimum of 100 HP and equal amount of torque.
I'm hoping for around an additional 115 at the rear wheels, which would equate to about 310HP at the flywheel.
Baseline dyno was 144HP which indicates about a 20%+ drive train loss.
I would recommend a shop that has a dyno, to asssure the proper air/fuel ratio settings.
All to easy to lean out under boost and smoke your engine.

Hey Guys,
My cousin who is installing the kit was looking over the parts and the instructions. This thread has been talking about shortened connecting rods, and the instructions say to send them to Turbo Technics for exchange. Can anyone shed some light as to what get done to the new/modified connecting rods?
Has anyone received machining instructions? or any information?
I'm eager to get this going but need a little more info.
Joe

Contact Hughes of Beaconsfield in the UK who were the supplying agents of this kit on 0044 1494 672141 and ask for the guy who knows all about the TT system and you should get your answer or at least an idea of how short the con-rods need to be.

Which engine are you installing the kit on?

My install is on a 1988 M103, which is 9.2:1 to start with, so no shortening of the con rods to lower compression will be done.

Ran into a problem with the oil feed lines for the turbos.
The supplied adapter appears to have a measured 14MM thread, but it's not M14x1.5. Possible it is a BSPP. This thread is supposed to match and install into the oil filter housing where the pressure sender fits. The thread in the housing is M12x1.5.
Had to buy fittings and TIG weld to the TT adapter to work.

I have the 3.2L m104 version.

The 3.2L M104 kit comes with rods that have been shortened by ~1mm.