Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Mercedes-Benz Performance Paddock

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 06-21-2008, 11:12 PM
jhodg5ck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,405
I'm going to have rails made soon...drop me a line if you want to get in on them @ the same time

Do you have a trigger wheel, trigger bracket yet?

Jonathan
__________________
Blue Ridge Mercedes
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
Specializing in all pre and post merger AMG's including Hammers and DOHC M117 engines.
Mercedes Repair Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-22-2008, 12:39 AM
hey_allen's Avatar
greasy fingered tinkerer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 728
Jonathan,
I meant to ask when we talked about fuel rails, but forgot...

The trigger wheel and spacer you are working on, they are intended to allow fitting EDIS?
If not, what system did you have in mind, or were you just intending it to allow MS or equivalent management to use it as a position sensor alone, and to control the coil directly?
__________________
-Josh
Testing the cheap Mercedes axiom, one bolt at a time...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-22-2008, 12:42 AM
jhodg5ck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,405
I'm thinking EDIS...everyone on MS seems to like it and parts are Cheap!

Give a ring, we'll chat

Jonathan
__________________
Blue Ridge Mercedes
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
Specializing in all pre and post merger AMG's including Hammers and DOHC M117 engines.
Mercedes Repair Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-23-2008, 05:26 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Coast
Posts: 228
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhodg5ck View Post
I'm going to have rails made soon...drop me a line if you want to get in on them @ the same time

Do you have a trigger wheel, trigger bracket yet?

Jonathan
Yeah, I might be interested in that. No I haven't collected anything else yet
__________________
1999 C43 AMG ~~~ 744 on black, mostly stock
1991 190e 2.6 ~~~ m117 5.6 project car
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-23-2008, 07:07 PM
PUMPISH's Avatar
Roman Karpovich
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 444
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhodg5ck View Post
I'm thinking EDIS...everyone on MS seems to like it and parts are Cheap!

Give a ring, we'll chat

Jonathan
EDIS is easy to work and works nice but it also makes that you can not use many good funktions becaurse of the edis modul.

You can not set a real rev limiter with a ignition cut.
You can only cut fuel with edis.
You can not control dwell time
You can not use launch and antilag control
And some other funktions.

I think that wasted spark is the best sollution for MS and making the most clean install too
__________________
MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X


TURBOCHARGE YOUR MERCEDES

www.turbobandit.com
My band!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Turbobandit/135610656626424?fref=ts
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-24-2008, 01:44 PM
jhodg5ck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,405
Point noted Roman!! You have far more experience w/ MS'ing Mercedes engines then I do. I'll focus on wasted spark


Jonathan
__________________
Blue Ridge Mercedes
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
Specializing in all pre and post merger AMG's including Hammers and DOHC M117 engines.
Mercedes Repair Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-25-2008, 07:26 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 32
Jonothan and others, the coil packs from an LSx engine will be a nice option, they have internal igniters and in your neck of the woods they should be easy to obtain. They are what Im going to use on the 119 when I find some as theyre like hens teeth down here.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-25-2008, 03:30 PM
jhodg5ck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,405
Thanks James, will make that our 1st choice

Jonathan
__________________
Blue Ridge Mercedes
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
Specializing in all pre and post merger AMG's including Hammers and DOHC M117 engines.
Mercedes Repair Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-01-2008, 02:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Posts: 2,633
Can't wait to see this develop . . .

:-) neil
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-18-2008, 12:22 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Posts: 2,633
Any update ?

:-) neil
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-19-2008, 05:19 PM
jhodg5ck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,405
Right now I'm looking @ the Wolf EMS units to do stand alone.. Have a potential customer that wants to do the conversion on two cars... So hopefully he'll come around

http://www.wolfems.com.au/

Jonathan
__________________
Blue Ridge Mercedes
Jonathan Hodgman
http://www.blueridgemb.com/
Enthusiast Service, Restoration & Tuning.
Follow Us on Facebook!
Located in the Atlanta area
Specializing in all pre and post merger AMG's including Hammers and DOHC M117 engines.
Mercedes Repair Atlanta
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-19-2008, 05:50 PM
88Black560SL
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NC
Posts: 3,003
This has been an interesting thread. It seams the recommendation is to go with wasted spark and both Roman and Jhodg5ck have built fuel rails. What about the intake manifold. It seems the old Djet manifold off the early iron blocks might be a better solution than the CIS manifold. Will the old Djet manifold bolt to the newer heads. It just seams like less restrictive plumbing on the Djet style and puts your throttle body where you can reach it.

Thoughts
__________________
To see my 129 parts for sale visit:
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Mercedes-SL-Store
John Roncallo
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-20-2008, 03:16 AM
hey_allen's Avatar
greasy fingered tinkerer
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tacoma, WA
Posts: 728
I'll have to take a look and see what the D-Jet manifolds look like.

I already had a set of rails built (and forwarded the info to Jonathan), but I got the design from the work that another of the gentlemen here had done, for his 450SLC.
__________________
-Josh
Testing the cheap Mercedes axiom, one bolt at a time...
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-20-2008, 08:37 AM
Johnhef's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Frederick, Md
Posts: 4,540
Count me in too as a potential on this. Need people for a group buy or anything yet?
__________________


1980 500SE/AMG Euro
1981 500SEL Euro
1982 380SEL
1983 300TD
1983 500SEC/AMG Euro
1984 500SEC
1984 300TD Euro
1986 190E 2.3-16
1986 190E 2.3
1987 300D
1997 C36 AMG
2003 C320T 4matic

past: 1969 280SE 4.5 | 1978 240D | 1978 300D | 1981 300SD | 1981 300SD | 1982 300CD | 1983 300CD | 1983 300SD | 1983 380SEC | 1984 300D | 1984 300D | 1984 300TD | 1984 500SEL | 1984 300SD | 1985 300D | 1986 300E | 1986 560SEL | 1986 560SEL/Carat | 1987 560SEC | 1991 300D 2.5 | 2006 R350
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 10-07-2008, 09:11 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Goldcoast, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 91
By the way, I have MSII v3 running fuel only on my '74 450SLC atm, U can use a Volvo pressure regulator that holds at 40-45psi, but its very small, cheap and is a inline one that u dont need to worry about mounting, If your too cheap to make fuel rails like me u can use the stock fuel rails and get the ends of the Injectors machined down to the metal core at the end with a barb fitting so that u can use the stock fuel rails(When i get the 350 head to install i am going to make proper fuel rails as i will need to buy bigger injectors to cope with blowing the engine).

If u are going MS make sure u buy the relay board too, makes it a MUCH easier and cleaner install, For my 36-1 tooth wheel i am getting my front crankshaft pulley modified, the ring closest to the engine is not used so having little pieces cut out of it. Will be ballanced too, costing me $70au

The car is more responsive to planting the foot. It also does slightly better on mileage with just fuel, with spark too its ment to be alot better. atm getting about 18-19mpg with a bit of a lead foot. I will have spark in the car in a week or so, once i have all the bits

for a insane SLC
http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5470
Do u know this guy Pumpish? He is in Sweden too, and its about to dump a 560 into the SLC for even more power.....

And another thing, i thought EDIS was a wasted spark system, 2 sparks at the same time? But either way in one of your videos of your car doing a dyno u mentioned that it was been rev limited by fuel cuts, i keep hearing that this is really bad specialy with a boosted engine, and some people say its fine, I take it u have never had a problem with fuel cuts over spark cuts?

Last edited by Bluefang; 10-07-2008 at 09:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page