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PUMPISH 09-27-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 300EVO (Post 1976745)
Glen, how do you know this or where did you hear/read about this?
Is there someone who has done this already? and have they posted somewhere?

m102, m103, m104 and m111 has the same bolt circle of bell housing

AustinsCE 09-27-2008 01:00 PM

What about the 112 and 113? They're supposed to be about the same engine aren't they? Did the 272 get a different pattern? Could you just bolt up a C/SLK350 6-speed to a V8?

Glen 09-27-2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300EVO (Post 1976745)
Glen, how do you know this or where did you hear/read about this?
Is there someone who has done this already? and have they posted somewhere?

I'm fairly certain it's been documented and confirmed on this site in the past.

c280nz 09-28-2008 03:43 AM

its all the shift linkages that might get tricky

bahaimus 10-01-2008 12:19 AM

What would the model number of this 6sp transmission be?

AustinsCE 10-01-2008 01:51 PM

Here's one for the 4-cylinder engines. It doesn't really say, they use 716-638???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__06-07-Mercedes-203-Ch-C230-6-speed-manual-transmission_W0QQitemZ260289112142QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmd ZViewItem?hash=item260289112142&_trkparms=72%3A543|39%3A1|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

SPDMETL 10-19-2008 02:15 PM

Have you considered adapting some sort of performance automatic such as the GM 200-4R ? No electronics...just a thought

JayRash 10-19-2008 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPDMETL (Post 1997015)
Have you considered adapting some sort of performance automatic such as the GM 200-4R ? No electronics...just a thought

If am to stick to automatic there isnt one better than the 4 speed i have on my 300. Has already done over 230000 miles me heavy heavy abuse with no rebuild. Amazing box this one, just have it well serviced on time and adjusted for firm sifts and it will live to all kind of abuse. But i still think ill go for the dog leg 5 speed manual once this dies on me. Havent made my mind yet

bahaimus 05-14-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen (Post 1976194)
I believe the 6-speed from the M111 powered C-Class should bolt right up...same bell housing bolt pattern as all M102, M103, M104 engines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 300EVO (Post 1976745)
Glen, how do you know this or where did you hear/read about this?
Is there someone who has done this already? and have they posted somewhere?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUMPISH (Post 1976796)
m102, m103, m104 and m111 has the same bolt circle of bell housing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glen (Post 1976872)
I'm fairly certain it's been documented and confirmed on this site in the past.

I'm about to be a guinea pig for this. I hope it all adds up! I just dropped the equivalent of ~$2.5k on one of these 6sp boxes to fit to a M104 engine and transplant into a stripped out 190E..........

c280nz 05-14-2009 10:17 PM

what did you do about flywheel?
good work,

bahaimus 05-15-2009 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by c280nz (Post 2200662)
what did you do about flywheel?
good work,

Not sure yet. Might end up with a custom alloy job for light weight.

c280nz 05-15-2009 06:48 AM

i think i posted on this site about my building of a custom single mass lightweight flywheel for the m104, go all steel, not alloy,
(edit: i just searched for it and found it and posted it back to the top)

i also went for a full face solid kevlar clutch disc.
so my setup is solid the whole way thru, but i would recomend a sprung clutch disc,
are you getting the clutch with the gearbox? it would help alot

jfilipcic 05-15-2009 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bahaimus (Post 2200565)
I'm about to be a guinea pig for this. I hope it all adds up! I just dropped the equivalent of ~$2.5k on one of these 6sp boxes to fit to a M104 engine and transplant into a stripped out 190E..........

Wish I never sold you the diff now! LOL!

Good luck, very interested in what you're doing.

Chlippo 05-16-2009 12:17 AM

when switching from auto to manual i think you should go for another diff too...3.67?
you will be going from 4 to 5 gangs so i think you will need this.
I am also interrested getting a 5 speed manual on my later-on boosted 300E but i will sure face the problem...finding one! But ill sure copy jayrash result too :D

bahaimus 05-19-2009 01:01 AM

For anyone who may have doubted:

6 forward gears baby:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0957.jpg

Its looking good....

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0954.jpg

Bolts straight up. Lifted and fitted all by my lonesome:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0959.jpg

Perfect!

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_0960.jpg

Now to figure out flywheel and clutch.......


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