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10-25-2008, 12:56 AM
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M110 to M103 swap?
Got a friend with a 280sl euro spec he has had forever. Its got 150K miles but the body is excellent. Its some special edition with way better looking wheels and a 5spd manual.
My question is will that transmission bolt up to a m103? I think the car would turn into a missle with a efi converted and tuned m103 without ruining the tranny if it fits.
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10-25-2008, 01:20 AM
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M110-m103
i owned a 107 chassis that originally had a M110, it had been converted to a M103, all seemed original, it appeared that it bolted right up, but i honestly cannot say for certain
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11-21-2008, 12:19 AM
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Your friend will need the complete FI system and the ignition amplifier for the M103 to run properly.
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11-21-2008, 10:03 AM
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11-21-2008, 12:12 PM
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guess ill have to soruce a 16v 5 pseed.
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11-24-2008, 01:06 PM
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11-24-2008, 02:09 PM
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He wants as little electronic work as possible. The first step is to swap in a stock m103 and later convert for the efi. The m104 conversion woud take longer due to several electronic differences. The m103 seems to be a direct swap sans the transmission hurdle.
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11-24-2008, 02:46 PM
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The m103 and m104 cis-e is different than the m110. It would actually be harder to get them to work. The harness is a mess. You would also need the ezl. The hfm m104 from a early w124 is perfect. no throttle control and no traction control. You need the factory control unit and wiring harness out of a car and power and ground and vehicle speed signal for proper idle control and fuel shut off.
Should be fun though.
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11-24-2008, 06:10 PM
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Thats why they stoped producing them after 2 years... I have seen a lot of them in my workshop and I dont wanna see them again M103 is much better engine and one of the best engines mercedes ever builded
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