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Old 11-17-2008, 07:11 PM
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turbo questions

hey guys, love the site. iv been wondering about putting a turbo in my 87 190e 16v im lookin for any ideas on what to put in it, what would go best? my pocket also isnt the deapest thing in the world due to me purchasing my 190...its my baby but its just not fast enough. all ideas welcome. let me know what can go on and what cant.

point me in the right direction guys

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Old 11-17-2008, 07:20 PM
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There is a ton of info on this for the cosworth.
There is someone on another forum I think mbworld that is selling a mandrel bent turbo header for around 900 dollars. If you keep the boost low, which you will not want to, you can keep the stock injection to start. Then go stand alone injection, custom intake, etc.
There is also a fair amount of power to be had with a new intake and stand alone injection by itself. Just depends on where you want to start. Although it is easier to learn to tune on a n/a motor.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:37 PM
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injectors,intake ect. are getting done asap, thats why im trying to get some ideas on turbos and other parts now, iv done my share modifing ricers, recently rolled my mx-6, now im on to my benz. im just not sure what i can do, what it can handle, thats why i came here. to ask you guys.




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Old 11-17-2008, 07:43 PM
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I would say on a completely stock long block you could go for 8-9 lbs of boost on pump gas. I do not remember what the stock compression of that motor was. If you go custom pistons then I have heard of people getting in excess of 400 hp out of it. That head really breathes.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:15 PM
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yeah that was one of my questions. the compression problems....i can always fix it with some low compression pistons. good to know i can lay on it a little. im having problems with my idle, on start up mostly, its completly random. i think its the o2 sensor. im gonna redo my intake set up and do the injectors and headers and hope for some good power. the faster i get info on a good turbo setup the faster it gets bought and then its just getting a movie up to show you guys. it will make my drifting vids a lot better considering the massive power gain
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:28 AM
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Well a 2.3-16 atleast in euro form has a major hurdel for turbo charging, a compression ratio of 10+ to 1. so i say go with a 3 layer steel gasket, to drop compression. keep boost to 0.48 bar and ur stock fuel distributor will cover u, worst case look for a 2.5-16 fuel distributor. Mind u this only a quick fix as ur consumption and AFR will be some what off on part thorottle runs. i suggest for best value yet economy try and do a setup like the one RBYCC has on his M103.

Edit: Just realized, haven't said if its 2.3 or 2.5, any way 2.5 is 9.7 to 1 while 2.3 is 10.5to 1. in any case find a way to drop either down to 9 or 9.2 to 1
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:27 PM
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will it really drop it that much? from 10.5=1 to around 9=1?
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:14 PM
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will it really drop it that much? from 10.5=1 to around 9=1?
Well true. I guess u can drop half a point . Dont know if going any thicker on the gaskit it will remain reliable. Look out pumpish on this forum and drop him a pm.
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Old 11-19-2008, 08:22 AM
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My turbo e320 has a 1.9mm head spacer on it between the block and head gasket and its compression dropped in the two point range from 10.2:1 into the high 8's.

I have read on 190revolution.net and the rods in your car can stand about 400hp

If you want to completely build the motor youll need 8 to 8.7:1 pistons, rods, and arp head and rod bolts which isnt bad at all because the motor is already quite bulletproof. If you built the motor I could see that 2.3 making a lot of power.
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Yes, stock rods break a little over the 400hp mark, also I would not got lower than 9.0:1 CR for a street car. Fuel wise if you don't want to go the stand alone ECU route a an additional injector controller is the way to go . There are some very informative threads about turboing the 16v on the 190revolution form
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