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Old 12-06-2008, 10:55 PM
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I have found Mercedes to be pretty damn good compared to Jag's.

Mercedes are pretty reliable as high end cars go.
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Old 12-06-2008, 10:57 PM
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I wouldn't expect any V12 to be reliable. I'm betting it's durable as all hell and will last a long time.
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:06 AM
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Whatever you do, stay away from the M137 V12's. STAY AWAY!
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:08 AM
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I guess I just don't rate. Looking forward to seeing what my 600SL will do.
I noticed you were on dragtimes John, I was poking around to see who had the fastest pre 1991 MB there. I'll have to get mine up there at some point, I believe my 500SEC is a good contender for the top slot. My best 1/4mi at tri-o-rama two months ago was a 14.475 but since theres no slip I guess that doesnt qualify for that site.

The 600SL badge is plain awesomness, but two words.... euro lights
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:15 AM
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Hattie, here's the E300 in question, from Finland of course:


Engine: OM606 3.0l
Turbos: Holset HX40super
Boost Control: 41mm external wastegate
Boost Pressure (psi): 38
Intercooler: yes
Heads: ported
Connecting Rods: Arrow
Headers / Downpipe: 4
Midpipe: 4
Exhaust: 4
Gas: diesel
Transmission: 722.3 automatic
Clutch/Torq Conv: stock / increased stall speed
Gears: 2.82
Tires: f: 235/45R18, r: 225/50R15 BFGoodrich drag radial
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:02 AM
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That's pretty impressive. I wonder how much gas mileage he gets on the road. I used to blow off diesels in this country, probably because I grew up with 240 and 300D's being the standard by which all diesels were judged. But after renting a new one in Germany I was really impressed. They have come along way.

Also Dragtimes .com is the honor system. They never required me to submit a time slip. But then maybe they would have been knocking at my door if I said I had a 560SL that did 11.5's. In any case it doesn't seem to be a big MB sight. I havent looked in a few years but my 560SL one 560SEC and one 560SEL were the only entries in the 560 class at the time

Also Whats wrong with a 137. Is it an inherently poor design. Or is it that they are pushing it to hard for a production engine with twin turbos on a V12 at 600 RWHP. Would the M120 at 600HP be a better solution?
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The M137 is the 2000-2002 V12. The M275 was the redesign of it with twin turbos, much better engine.
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Old 12-07-2008, 05:15 PM
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Yeah thats about what I expected from that E300D. Kick ass car!

It doesn't take much to put an already fast car into the 11's, but putting a slow car into the 11's is something.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:11 PM
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High price doesn't mean it'll be any more reliable, usually the opposite.
The Swede makes a good point.
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Ouch, Ted!
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:35 PM
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The M137 is the 2000-2002 V12. The M275 was the redesign of it with twin turbos, much better engine.
My work neighbor (Russian mafia) has an '01 S600. He's had a lot of niggling electronic issues. I think the car has 80k miles. Oh yeah, he had to re-do the front end and had some motor issues-- coilpacks? Don't recall. It wasn't cheap to fix of course.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:45 PM
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I'll never forget the oil leak on my (I say my because I'm married to it) 2001 S600. It was the oil cooler.

Which is in the V of the block.

Which the bolts for it are UNDER the edge of the cylinder heads.


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Old 12-10-2008, 08:53 AM
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I didn't know you had an S600, John. Is that new?
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:34 PM
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no...

re-read that post again.
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