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The Swede 11-26-2008 05:49 PM

Just dropped $2600 on my S600
 
Ouch...

Replace ABC pump, leaking trans lines. Need to replace front and rear pads to the tune of $600. Yeah, right. I'll do that myself.:eek:

So time to chip it!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Mercedes-S600-on-Nitrous_156718.htm

AustinsCE 11-26-2008 05:53 PM

I know it's legitimate, but an ABC pump sounds like one of those muffler bearing, blinker fluid parts.

The Swede 11-26-2008 05:55 PM

ABC=Pain :rolleyes:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w220-s-class/1332536-abc-ps-pump-leaking-causing-abc.html

iwrock 11-26-2008 05:58 PM

Hmmm.... Want to trade a blue wagon for a Black S600?



Was the pump leaking?

AdvisorGuy 11-26-2008 05:59 PM

Always fun to watch the "rodeo" gimmick when the system is being bled. make a low rider envious.

The Swede 11-26-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdvisorGuy (Post 2032374)
Always fun to watch the "rodeo" gimmick when the system is being bled. make a low rider envious.

Hehe, I think there are some You-Tube vids of that...

The Swede 11-26-2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwrock (Post 2032373)
Hmmm.... Want to trade a blue wagon for a Black S600?



Was the pump leaking?

Yep. Hopefully only time I'll need to do it. Kleeman has a ECU/TCU upgrade for $3k, much cheaper than Renntech. Very tempting.

Mr.Kenny 11-26-2008 06:48 PM

I thot you was talkin bout one of theze S600.

http://www.hondas600.com/brochure/brochure1.jpg

Hatterasguy 11-26-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Swede (Post 2032375)
Hehe, I think there are some You-Tube vids of that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkRvV2iWZZw

Cool to watch! Expensive to pay for!:eek:

Brian Carlton 11-26-2008 07:27 PM

I've put $1K into the 740i and it still won't get rid of the CEL.

Looks like a MAF next.........another $250. and climbing.........

Kuan 11-26-2008 07:29 PM

Hope it wasn't all in quarters. That would have put a dent on the roof.

iwrock 11-26-2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2032469)
I've put $1K into the 740i and it still won't get rid of the CEL.

Looks like a MAF next.........another $250. and climbing.........

Its a BMW.... They don't know what wrong... :confused:

iwrock 11-26-2008 07:30 PM

This ones cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnt5dW_53w&feature=related


Good music too.

iwrock 11-26-2008 07:33 PM

Dang Swede, that first vid is wicked.




You gonna do it?

The Swede 11-26-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2032469)
I've put $1K into the 740i and it still won't get rid of the CEL.

Looks like a MAF next.........another $250. and climbing.........

Welcome to the E38. That issue doesn't ring a bell, but I bet you could find out on one of the BMW forums.

Mine has some electric malady that effects the L side. Heat blows cool only on L side. I get a warning saying either the front or rear L tire is low, even though it isn't. L fog in kaput, alarm goes off by itself, and it needs some front end work. I'm betting all that would cost $2k to repair.

The Swede 11-26-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwrock (Post 2032477)
Dang Swede, that first vid is wicked.




You gonna do it?

$3k is doable. I'll wait until spring.

Botnst 11-27-2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Swede (Post 2032363)
Ouch...

Replace ABC pump, leaking trans lines. Need to replace front and rear pads to the tune of $600. Yeah, right. I'll do that myself.:eek:

So time to chip it!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Mercedes-S600-on-Nitrous_156718.htm

Ouch. That's the downside of having a really, really nice car, isn't it?

A W140 was for sale by owner here locally a year or so ago. I think it was S500. It was immaculate, one-owner, dealer-maintained. Black/Black. The doors close like a vault. Inside was silent. It accelerated HARD for such a large, heavy vehicle. I got to Rayne before I left Lafayette and came back younger. I loved that car. I could hear myself calling my broker for some cash.

But then I started remembering all the Threads of Dread. You gotta be a great mechanic or willing to pay the price. I can do neither.

I'm happy with my current E-Class Mercedes. But I sure understand the seduction of the S-Class.

B

LaRondo 11-27-2008 12:40 AM

Let's admit it, cars suck ...

MBeige 11-27-2008 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2032707)
The doors close like a vault.

Door close assist not working?

The Swede 11-27-2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2032707)

I'm happy with my current E-Class Mercedes. But I sure understand the seduction of the S-Class.

B

"S" for seduction, that's for sure.

Hatterasguy 11-27-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBeige (Post 2032792)
Door close assist not working?

That doesn't make a difference.

I think the S class is one of the best sedans you can buy, but they sure are not cheap to live with.

super SEC 11-27-2008 01:24 PM

Once the ABC issues started on my 600, I had problem after problem after problem. I put $10,000+ in my 600 due in a years time due to ABC issues, coil packs, Intercooler pump, and other misc issues.

It might be a good time to trade it in on a newer one with a warranty. You will come out ahead and have a newer car. Get rid of the anchor before it drags you under.

If you have not replaced the coil packs, you will soon. They all seem to fail around 50,000 to 75,000 miles. Each side is around $3,000. Don't forget the $1,500 spark plug change that's needed at 75,000 miles. Once you get out of warranty, the 2003 and later 600's are realllllly expensive to own.

The Swede 11-27-2008 02:02 PM

Yes, I've read they get really $$$ after 50k miles. Thanks for the reminder.

My brother took delivery on a C63 a few months back, he really likes it. The big 12's really rev me up however.

I'll have to find the right car before making a move.

super SEC 11-27-2008 02:11 PM

The C63's are nice but too small. Go for a S or CL65 with a CPO warranty. Make sure the warranty is the 3 year extended and not just the 12 mth. I like the twin-turbo V12's too. That's one sweet engine. It's a shame the ABC is such a pain. The GL has 4-matic while the SL, CL an S have proble-matic.

Johnhef 11-27-2008 10:59 PM

Ted just bring it here next time you take a trip this way, I'll help you out ;)

on a side note, I saw the worlds fastest S600 last weekend. 10.58 1/4mi!

http://photo.thegetlucky.com/img/v6/p324331538-5.jpg

not the same car but this one was badass too!
http://photo.thegetlucky.com/img/v0/p213035266-5.jpg

TheDon 11-27-2008 11:16 PM

how many turbos on that second car?

MBlovr 11-28-2008 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super SEC (Post 2032996)
Once the ABC issues started on my 600, I had problem after problem after problem. I put $10,000+ in my 600 due in a years time due to ABC issues, coil packs, Intercooler pump, and other misc issues.

It might be a good time to trade it in on a newer one with a warranty. You will come out ahead and have a newer car. Get rid of the anchor before it drags you under.

If you have not replaced the coil packs, you will soon. They all seem to fail around 50,000 to 75,000 miles. Each side is around $3,000. Don't forget the $1,500 spark plug change that's needed at 75,000 miles. Once you get out of warranty, the 2003 and later 600's are realllllly expensive to own.

There is a reason why they depreciate like nobodies business. You really don't get something for nothing.

The Swede 11-28-2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 2033327)
Ted just bring it here next time you take a trip this way, I'll help you out ;)

on a side note, I saw the worlds fastest S600 last weekend. 10.58 1/4mi!

I just might take you up on that. Might be cheaper to drive it out to VA and have you look at it. Not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. I wouldn't mind "downsizing" to a super clean 500E or a Euro 6.9.

Who owns that bad-ass S600? Do you have any info on the motor? What a monster & thanks for the pics! :)


Edit:
Oh ok, that car is owned by "Oxygen". I've seen his posts at MBWorld...

Roncallo 11-28-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 2033327)
Ted just bring it here next time you take a trip this way, I'll help you out ;)

on a side note, I saw the worlds fastest S600 last weekend. 10.58 1/4mi!

http://photo.thegetlucky.com/img/v6/p324331538-5.jpg

not the same car but this one was badass too!
http://photo.thegetlucky.com/img/v0/p213035266-5.jpg

Wow

Do you think that nice little package would fit nice and neat like under the hood of a 107.

Johnhef 12-03-2008 11:35 PM

haha probably not. The first car blelongs to Steve and I forget his last name at the moment. I dont recall who had the second one, but Oxygen gets credit for the pics, he has a silver S600 iirc.

Ted, gimmie a list of what all needs to be dne on the car and we'll go from there.

Dee8go 12-04-2008 08:18 AM

Did you se that S600 at an autocross, John? Those are muy impressivo!

Dee8go 12-04-2008 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Swede (Post 2033767)
I just might take you up on that. Might be cheaper to drive it out to VA and have you look at it. Not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. I wouldn't mind "downsizing" to a super clean 500E or a Euro 6.9.

Who owns that bad-ass S600? Do you have any info on the motor? What a monster & thanks for the pics! :)


Edit:
Oh ok, that car is owned by "Oxygen". I've seen his posts at MBWorld...

If you do come out here, Ted, we'll have another get together in your honor and you can show that bad boy off.

Johnhef 12-04-2008 08:34 PM

No that was at MIR two weeks or so ago.

The Swede 12-05-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 2038464)
haha probably not. The first car blelongs to Steve and I forget his last name at the moment.

Ted, gimmie a list of what all needs to be dne on the car and we'll go from there.

Oh yeah, this is his slip:
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-S600-Timeslip-11883.html

Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIG-akdyAiM

Right now my car only needs brake pads. However, it will need spark plugs and a few other items in the next 10k miles. It's about 500 miles from 60k.

I'll letcha know!! :)

The Swede 12-05-2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 2038610)
If you do come out here, Ted, we'll have another get together in your honor and you can show that bad boy off.

Thanks man, we'll see how the winter goes. Wait, how about during the Obama inauguration/partay?! (kidding!!)

Johnhef 12-06-2008 07:54 AM

Didn't realize this, but he's apparently the fastest MB overall as well.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9...slatesttw4.jpg

The Swede 12-06-2008 11:43 AM

Wow, those are some fast E55's.

I wonder how many of those cars are bone stock?

Hatterasguy 12-06-2008 01:18 PM

Whats the story with number 23? Thats screaming fast for a diesel!


I'm guessing the stock 135hp na 606 is long gone.:D

iwrock 12-06-2008 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2040997)
Whats the story with number 23? Thats screaming fast for a diesel!


I'm guessing the stock 135hp na 606 is long gone.:D

I didnt even notice that.



We need more Mercedes at my local track.... Show all the ricers and such.

Johnhef 12-06-2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2040997)
Whats the story with number 23? Thats screaming fast for a diesel!


I'm guessing the stock 135hp na 606 is long gone.:D

Yeah I noticed that too. I keep forgetting to ask who it is.

Hatterasguy 12-06-2008 09:42 PM

See if you can't dig up some details. All the cars on that list are pretty fast out of the box, but making a NA diesel run with tuned CL65's and S600's is something. He must have a Myna pump on that car and some pretty trick stuff.

johnathan1 12-06-2008 10:07 PM

Sometimes I wonder if everyone on this forum is over exaggerating when it comes to reliability...I mean, almost all of us are used to the unusually reliable W123/6 diesels...so basically ANY other car would be labeled "expensive and unreliable" in comparison. amirite??

I owned my 1993 S420 for a while, and there was never really any weirdness, nothing broke while I owned it, and I put close to 10k miles on it. The door close assist never worked properly and the Bose amp needed to be replaced, but that's it. Everything else on that car worked perfectly, and it felt great to drive, even with 160k miles. That's the newest MB I've ever owned though, so I can't really comment in the 03+ S600's...but I really don't think that a car that cost so much new would be as unreliable and crappy as so many on this site would have you believe.

Roncallo 12-06-2008 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnhef (Post 2040789)
Didn't realize this, but he's apparently the fastest MB overall as well.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9...slatesttw4.jpg

I guess I just don't rate. Looking forward to seeing what my 600SL will do.

The Swede 12-06-2008 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnathan1 (Post 2041370)
Sometimes I wonder if everyone on this forum is over exaggerating when it comes to reliability...I mean, almost all of us are used to the unusually reliable W123/6 diesels...so basically ANY other car would be labeled "expensive and unreliable" in comparison. amirite??

I owned my 1993 S420 for a while, and there was never really any weirdness, nothing broke while I owned it, and I put close to 10k miles on it. The door close assist never worked properly and the Bose amp needed to be replaced, but that's it. Everything else on that car worked perfectly, and it felt great to drive, even with 160k miles. That's the newest MB I've ever owned though, so I can't really comment in the 03+ S600's...but I really don't think that a car that cost so much new would be as unreliable and crappy as so many on this site would have you believe.

High price doesn't mean it'll be any more reliable, usually the opposite.

The Swede 12-06-2008 10:54 PM

The #1 S600 is running NOS as well...

Hatterasguy 12-06-2008 10:55 PM

I have found Mercedes to be pretty damn good compared to Jag's.

Mercedes are pretty reliable as high end cars go.

The Swede 12-06-2008 10:57 PM

I wouldn't expect any V12 to be reliable. I'm betting it's durable as all hell and will last a long time.

Johnhef 12-07-2008 12:06 AM

Whatever you do, stay away from the M137 V12's. STAY AWAY!

Johnhef 12-07-2008 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roncallo (Post 2041400)
I guess I just don't rate. Looking forward to seeing what my 600SL will do.

I noticed you were on dragtimes John, I was poking around to see who had the fastest pre 1991 MB there. I'll have to get mine up there at some point, I believe my 500SEC is a good contender for the top slot. My best 1/4mi at tri-o-rama two months ago was a 14.475 but since theres no slip I guess that doesnt qualify for that site.

The 600SL badge is plain awesomness, but two words.... euro lights :D

Johnhef 12-07-2008 12:15 AM

Hattie, here's the E300 in question, from Finland of course:
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/6881...-Benz-E300.jpg
http://www.dragtimes.com/images_time...0-Timeslip.jpg
Engine: OM606 3.0l
Turbos: Holset HX40super
Boost Control: 41mm external wastegate
Boost Pressure (psi): 38
Intercooler: yes
Heads: ported
Connecting Rods: Arrow
Headers / Downpipe: 4
Midpipe: 4
Exhaust: 4
Gas: diesel
Transmission: 722.3 automatic
Clutch/Torq Conv: stock / increased stall speed
Gears: 2.82
Tires: f: 235/45R18, r: 225/50R15 BFGoodrich drag radial


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