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Need Help - C36 Motor into 190e 16v
Hey guys,
I am going to need some real noobish advice here unfortunately. I tried to do my own research but ended up even more confused. Rundown: 16V with a Blown Motor, would like to put in C36 motor. Questions: For the 190e, what stays and what goes? What parts do I need from the C36? Would you recommend using a standalone system such as Megasquirt? If so, what pieces do I need to buy? Sorry for the extreme vagueness of it all, but I am really lost.
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Jack Miles 2001 740i Sport 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.6 5 Speed 1979 Mercedes-Benz 500SE AMG Euro-Spec 1965 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 TLF-8 4 Sale 1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka/Diesel/8Speed Various US Military Vehicles - Someone find me professional help. Please. http://theshowroomshine.com/Jack/190...Signature2.jpg |
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Does the 190E have CIS?
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic. |
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Yeah, its 100% bone stock.
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Jack Miles 2001 740i Sport 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.6 5 Speed 1979 Mercedes-Benz 500SE AMG Euro-Spec 1965 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 TLF-8 4 Sale 1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka/Diesel/8Speed Various US Military Vehicles - Someone find me professional help. Please. http://theshowroomshine.com/Jack/190...Signature2.jpg |
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For starters, are you going aftermarket with the ECU or staying stock?
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic. |
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Well, I was thinking of going aftermarket from an expandability standpoint. If I am able to find a donor C36 and am able to take everything I need I would, but otherwise I would go with something else.
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Jack Miles 2001 740i Sport 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.6 5 Speed 1979 Mercedes-Benz 500SE AMG Euro-Spec 1965 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 TLF-8 4 Sale 1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka/Diesel/8Speed Various US Military Vehicles - Someone find me professional help. Please. http://theshowroomshine.com/Jack/190...Signature2.jpg |
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Well for starters, you are going to have to gut the engine bay of the 16 valve. All the CIS and its various components go away, as the C36 your planning on using uses EFI.
Do you plan on using the 16 valve 5 speed?
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic. |
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The Engine/Tranny are out along with the CIS components.
I would like to use the 16v's Transmission as to the best of my knowledge it will bolt right up.
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Jack Miles 2001 740i Sport 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.3-16 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190e 2.6 5 Speed 1979 Mercedes-Benz 500SE AMG Euro-Spec 1965 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 TLF-8 4 Sale 1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka/Diesel/8Speed Various US Military Vehicles - Someone find me professional help. Please. http://theshowroomshine.com/Jack/190...Signature2.jpg |
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I think the M104, M103, and M102 all mount into the engine bay the same, so I thin from that standpoint it will work. The only headache I can imagine would be wiring the thing up.
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-Justin 91 560 SEC AMG - other dogs dd 01 Honda S2000 - dogs dd 07 MB ML320 CDI - dd 16 Lexus IS250 - wifes dd it's automatic. |
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You already know about the space issue . . . radiator/support . . . and then the wiring for a six versus a four . . . different plumbing for a/c . . . nearly complete change out for engine electricals. Which is why the swap is typically done in a 2.6L 190E
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The trans should sit in a different spot too with the 6, you'll need different shifter linkages and trans support.
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