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Old 10-01-2010, 06:25 AM
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Ooo I see a velocity stack, looks like the custom intake manifold will be done right with velocity stacks, thats great ! Definitely get more pics, as the saying goes .. "pics or ban" :-D :-D
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:52 AM
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Ooo I see a velocity stack, looks like the custom intake manifold will be done right with velocity stacks, thats great ! Definitely get more pics, as the saying goes .. "pics or ban" :-D :-D
haha. Will definately have decent pics when I visit workshop again on Friday. They promise to get stuck into it all next week It was soooooooo good to see the car today. Reminded me why I am doing what I am doing Cheered me up a bit
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:08 PM
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lookin good
i will be interested to see where you mount the throttle linkage, romas ones are all on lefties, you are like uk, a rightie.
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:12 PM
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lookin good
i will be interested to see where you mount the throttle linkage, romas ones are all on lefties, you are like uk, a rightie.
That will be a challenge & something to be worked out this coming week......
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:53 PM
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i will be interested to see where you mount the throttle linkage, romas ones are all on lefties, you are like uk, a rightie.
Hey Nick,

Concerning the tb location. Spoke with workshop yesterday. He is mounting it underneath the custom Plenum, in the middle to ensure LPG vapour spreads evenly across all pots. If it was injected, he would have run it in ront of first cylinder as Roman has with angled plenum. LPG changes everything though I guess.

This means the tb will be upside down & feed downwards & then turns toward intercooler via a half-horse shoe bend.

There still busy mind you the sods Oh well, more time to put away for other stuff like the springs (all need replacing as they were cut by previous owner ) & possible brake upgrade? Will see how current set up works when I get to drive it though first.
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:03 AM
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Just planning out mods I want to do very soon whilst I'm awaiting return of car from workshop along with mods I want to get stuck into once car comes home from workshop.

While I'm waiting I wanna remove grill from bonnet & paint it up satin black. If it looks the part then look at powder-coating it along with perhaps wheel centres? Also paint the boot strip holding rear license plate lights on matching satin black along with the boot star emblem.

First thing i want to definitely tackle is engine bay heat. This includes heat wrapping the inlet runners & custom extractors. Probably getting a Turbo blanket. Tastefully cutting into front bar & inserting mesh, painting mesh black. I want to avoid bonnet scoops to let air into bay as I don't want to draw attention at this stage.
Looking at a set of 18 x 8" BBS lookalikes. Only reason is they are "brand new" being sold privately so, very tempting
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BAD300, just as a precaution have the workshop check the oil pump before assembling the engine caused mine just failed ....
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:01 AM
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BAD300, just as a precaution have the workshop check the oil pump before assembling the engine caused mine just failed ....
Thanks Joreto I just read the drama you had in your post 5 mins ago. Sorry to hear this Hope it's not too much of a drama for you now?.......Thinking more about the pump. I wouldn't of thought oil pumps played up as a rule?

P.S. engine is already together & in car
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:01 PM
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oil pumps in general fail if bouncing of the limiter or too high a revs

the RB engines had a problem with pumping too much oil to the head if you revved them too high for too long, going around a corner (race track) which was bad because thats exactly what the grt was for... they fixed a few years after they were released, which considering the engine was in production for 12 or so years is'nt bad

just a thought, as the RB/m103/4 seem to be pretty damn similar (not going of any technical proof)
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My rev limiter was set to 6800 rpm in the runs, the car never bounced of the rev limiter for too long. In the clip there is a slight error in the rev counter and 7000rpm on the rev are actually 6500 - 6600rpms according to megasquirt (rev counter is from a 300E but still gives an slight % of error) . If the problem is the oil pump I'll see if there is a way to install or swap the internals of the 16v pump, in my opinion it should be ok since the 16v reved to 7500rpm with no problem .

P.S. BAD300, sorry for the off topic .
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:18 PM
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My rev limiter was set to 6800 rpm in the runs, the car never bounced of the rev limiter for too long. In the clip there is a slight error in the rev counter and 7000rpm on the rev are actually 6500 - 6600rpms according to megasquirt (rev counter is from a 300E but still gives an slight % of error) . If the problem is the oil pump I'll see if there is a way to install or swap the internals of the 16v pump, in my opinion it should be ok since the 16v reved to 7500rpm with no problem .

P.S. BAD300, sorry for the off topic .
Joreto,

If it's discussing performance/experience etc. It's not off topic imo
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:33 PM
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Still deciding whether or not to cut out the front bar whilst waiting for workshop to finish (always something else pops up in life is would seem ) or leave it til' I get it home?

Decided against painting the bonnet grill black just yet. Will get this sandblastered & powder coated along with wheels once I've chosen the right ones (still considering the BBS style rims at the moment). So will be pretty much a waste of time messing with it now only to get it done right later Will probably have other parts to sandblast up ahead. You never know.

Still not overly eager to do too much cosmetic body work prior to vehicle inspection & rego.

Guess I'm really peeved at the time it's taking the workshop but, on a positive side, this gives me extra time to put away for expected expenses up ahead like brakes? struts? any electrical dramas that may arise when it's all said & done?
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:41 AM
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putting the throttel body in the center and underneath?..

you will need a very long throttel cable, i am waitng for you to finnish yours before i start mine, as i am concerned about the cable routing, and wouldnt want it stuck wide open, especially if the missus was driving
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Old 11-07-2010, 03:10 PM
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putting the throttel body in the center and underneath?..

you will need a very long throttel cable, i am waitng for you to finnish yours before i start mine, as i am concerned about the cable routing, and wouldnt want it stuck wide open, especially if the missus was driving
Was a surprise to me too but was explained that positioning in the middle was necessary with LPG to ensure even vapour distribution. Techy's not keen on mounting TB in front of plenum.

It's got me livered @ moment. It means a longer intercooler piping too which doesn't thrill me. If it was mounted on the plenum front, piping would be nice & short. I'll just have to wait & see for now (what's new )
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