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Old 08-27-2010, 08:08 PM
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Where do I read the cam codes`?

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Old 09-03-2010, 05:31 AM
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Well, ?

The engine is started up now but the timing is set to standart and the advancer sprocket has been turned clockwice and the cam counter clock wice and the the 2 dowel holes fittet with 4mm pins and the engine stands on TDC.

I guess thats the right setting, it drives with one hell of a low down power grunt should be close to 300 Nm at 1500 Nm. so that feels right.
just fill in some 99 high Octane V-Power

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Old 10-06-2010, 06:01 PM
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Post BRABUS camshaft B5 and B6 kit informations.

This is what follows with the brabus Performance camshaft kit.
That is quite some modifications for just a performance cam.

What do you make of that
Includes a controlbox for air control as well.

The fact that my car drives with the B6 kit as a part of the 3.6-24 engine enlargement, I can now see that my cam adjustment must be right, no new dowel holes or anything else to be confused or mistaken about
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just wanted to ask have you changed the injector seals and cleaned the throttle actuator?
An old thread, but...

Even though I had the injectors serviced, we finally discovered that the repairer had failed to put new seals on them. The old seals had partially failed on the inside surfaces (not visible unless the seals are removed) and caused air leakage into the mixture formation.

taint was correct in his diagnosis!
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So is every one's C36 engines now runnig well??

I'm going to repuild an C36 engine and the timing chain was of when I bought it.

So is this the correct way:
1- the exhaust Sprocket set using the U dwell hole.
2- Intake variable set to retard.
3- The 4mm holes with the timing chain firm are slightly over the head level on the intake side and slightly lower than the head on the exhaust cam.

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Old 01-16-2017, 09:31 AM
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Timing Setup Procedure for the 1996 C36
OK, after much research, I have come up with the following setup procedure. My car is running beautifully with this setting. So I believe it is perfect...or pretty damn close!

Set the crankshaft angle to TDC with (no 1 ?) cylinder on the compression stroke. Then:

1. There are two dowel guide holes on the exhaust sprocket of the 1996 AMG M104 engine.
2. Use the dowel hole that is marked with a "U" (modified by AMG to provide 2.5 deg advance on the exhaust valves).
3. Set the 4 mm guide hole approximately 4-6 mm above the level of the head (as opposed to level with the head on the C280 M104 engine).
4. Set the inlet cam sprocket with the 4 mm guide hole about 2-4 mm below level with the head (as opposed to level with the head on the C280 M104 engine).
Wow this is an old thread.
As far as I can remember the procedure above is what I set for the timing.
My car is still running incredibly strong!
The idle problem was purely leaking injector seals.

Good luck and enjoy the torque and anger of the AMG M104!
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I'm in the process of refreshing a 3.6 also. I didn't start to disassemble it yet but I have to valve cover off so I will post some pics of where the holes are positioned on the cam sprockets.


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Wow this is an old thread.
As far as I can remember the procedure above is what I set for the timing.
My car is still running incredibly strong!
The idle problem was purely leaking injector seals.

Good luck and enjoy the torque and anger of the AMG M104!
This is how I did it on my C36 as well. Seems to be running well.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:37 PM
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M104 AMG Engine - Timing set-up procedure

I've checked my engine and it's set to factory setting like any other M104.
But I got this engine from pick-n-pull so I don't know how it ran before.



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Old 05-22-2017, 10:24 AM
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You guys were right AMG timing is set different from stock M104



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Hi guys , i have 3.4 AMG and i have no idea how to set up the timing right. TDC on my 1st cylinder is on mark 25 degrees advance on the pulley . the tdc on the crankshaft sensor is matching the piston tdc. So either my pulley is misaligned somehow (the harmonic balancer is in great condition) or AMG engine should be synchronised with the camshafts (4mm holes) at 25 degrees advance on the pulley . then at 0T on the pulley the 4 mm holes will be as you wrote - intake 4-5 mm under head edge and exaust 4-5 mm over the head edge!if this is not correct than i have no idea what to do , my car deffinatelly has no power at the regular 104 settings !
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Is there anyone that can confirm they have set the camshaft with 100% success or what?
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Is there anyone that can confirm they have set the camshaft with 100% success or what?

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Hi , i found a man in germany with 3.4 in stock condition ! I wait for an info from him about the timing because he is about to change his head gasket! I will share :-)


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Old 08-07-2018, 03:23 PM
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I have 2 3.6 engines, both have had the timing set to factory m104 standards. I've rebuilt one of them set the timing the same way and it works perfectly. I believe most of these issues come from not setting the cam adjuster correctly.
So make sure to follow the procedures for setting the cam adjuster correctly and it will be all good.
My 3.6 have plenty of power, up to redline and I love it!


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Old 07-07-2019, 01:06 PM
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I have 2 3.6 engines, both have had the timing set to factory m104 standards. I've rebuilt one of them set the timing the same way and it works perfectly. I believe most of these issues come from not setting the cam adjuster correctly.
So make sure to follow the procedures for setting the cam adjuster correctly and it will be all good.
My 3.6 have plenty of power, up to redline and I love it!


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So basically you put the 4 mm drill in the backside of both the inlet and exhaust sprocket? and set the crankshaft in tdc? or OT as it says on my crankshaft pulley.

Was the exhaust sprocket using the U marked pin or the one without the U?

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