could anybody tell me if and where i could get one in canada for a 92 500e.
do the performance chips make a big difference in our cars?
thanks and happy holidays

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1992 500E silver
1990 300ce AMG
1993 500e smoke silver-sold
1992 500e sold pearl black-sold
1966 mustang converible 289
1969 camaro x11
1991 ZR-1
1972 corvette roadster
2000 dodge cummins 4x4 sold
1994 e320 sold
1987 560sec Brabus
1987 300E (my first benz)

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Call them if the chips are not on the site. The effect of the chip is noticable, but not a huge.

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Mark Stetson
1995 E320 Wagon Moonstone Grey/Parchment 106K mi.
2007 E63 AMG Graphite/designo 75K mi

I have a PAD chip in mine, and I'm pretty sure it makes little to no difference. I drag-raced a non-chipped 500E of similar vintage to mine, and we were dead even the length of the 1/4 mile.

Maybe the big $$$ re-programming from a company like RennTech is more effective, but I'd suggest you save your money until someone can show you proof that the chips work.

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"If God had meant for us to walk, why did he give us feet that fit car pedals?" Sir Sterling Moss

Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

thanks for the heads up Michael.

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1992 500E silver
1990 300ce AMG
1993 500e smoke silver-sold
1992 500e sold pearl black-sold
1966 mustang converible 289
1969 camaro x11
1991 ZR-1
1972 corvette roadster
2000 dodge cummins 4x4 sold
1994 e320 sold
1987 560sec Brabus
1987 300E (my first benz)

Glad to help-guess we should have known that the MBZ folks had this one covered...

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"If God had meant for us to walk, why did he give us feet that fit car pedals?" Sir Sterling Moss

Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

I stand by my statement that the effect of the chip is noticeable, but not huge. I'm in the middle of getting my throttle actuator replaced, so I've recently removed the chip. I've noticed the loss of power and torque, as I noticed an increase when I installed it several months ago. Although I have not performed timed accelleration runs, I'm sure of the difference, and I like it.

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Mark Stetson
1995 E320 Wagon Moonstone Grey/Parchment 106K mi.
2007 E63 AMG Graphite/designo 75K mi

Mark-

What brand chip did you install, and did you do back-to-back runs with and without the chip? With all due respect, Mark, I thought I'd felt a difference, too, but the mind's a tricky thing...my car runs, and has always run, darn near perfectly, so its inability to pull on an unchipped, early 500E cannot be denied. I fel a tad ripped off.

Unless I can see any claims empirically backed up, I'm simply not buying it (and I already paid for a chip!!)

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"If God had meant for us to walk, why did he give us feet that fit car pedals?" Sir Sterling Moss

Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

Man I amazed at the anwsers wow. Accroding to the PAD spec sheet. If you do other upgrade it makes with chip work hand in hand with all the mapping going on in the LH unit. I notice a big difference with mine. I have a free flow exhaust with no factory resnonator anymore/K&N's with a modified airbox/ the forced Air ducts I created by modifying the wiper filler panels/and the reworked trans. My car launches out of the hole.
The damn ASR light wantes to come on even spinning humugous 18's at the rear. I guess its how you set everything up to work hand in hand, not saying you guys didnt do it right just my own set up thats all. Thanks guys you are like my 2nd familia out the the 124036 family he he



Ciao Guidz

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500E Sold
2006 Mini Cooper S
Modified,pulley,injectors,suspension
2009 E350 Sport AMG package

Michael, mine is also a PAD chip. I do have K&N filters installed as well. And I noticed that in the Perf. Prod. catalog, they specify that the power gains for the chip were in a car also equipped with K&N's. Maybe it needs the extra breathing to capitalize on the mods. Regarding racing another stock 500E for comparison, well, I think there are even more variables there than in one's memory of the same car before and after installation! As you imply, someone of us is just gonna have to bite the bullet and head to the track to do back-to-back runs, matching engine temp., track conditions, launch, etc. BTW, there was a cool thread in the performance forum about getting the most out of our cars on a drag strip. It got involved with making the best launch without physically defeating the ASR, and stuff like that. One guy was saying that he launched best when he let his car start in second gear, so that the delayed kick-down reduced the car's tendency to engage ASR. Anyone out there have one of those cool Gforce accellerometers?

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Mark Stetson
1995 E320 Wagon Moonstone Grey/Parchment 106K mi.
2007 E63 AMG Graphite/designo 75K mi

Mark,

I made a comment to that effect some time ago-I got MY best 0-60 (per Gtech) starting in 2nd gear and simply mashing the throttle.

BTW, I also run K&Ns, and agree they work in harmony-I'd installed just the chip, and the car didn't run right. However, after putting in the K&Ns everything smoothed out

Still, everything considered I don't think there's much gain there, if any at all.

Another thing-if you want to do a good back-to-back comparison that's a little easier to orchestrate, see if you can get 2 500Es together so you can swap the entire LH modules between the cars.

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

That's a good idea! Guido, let's go to Palmdale!

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Mark Stetson
1995 E320 Wagon Moonstone Grey/Parchment 106K mi.
2007 E63 AMG Graphite/designo 75K mi

Why don't you guys locate your local speed shop and find out where the nearest dyno is. The going rate is usually $50 for two runs, so a back to back comparison would possible.

Just a suggestion.

Ross-

The problem is finding a Dyno that'll work with ASR! However, remember that ASR is easily disabled if you unhook the front wheel speed sensors...just a thought

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"If God had meant for us to walk, why did he give us feet that fit car pedals?" Sir Sterling Moss

Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

Oops!

Sorry Michael, I wasn't aware of a ASR issue, do we need a special Dyno to do HP runs? And you very right indeed, the ASR can be disabled in 1 minute flat once you know the process.

Boy those 100 foot tire marks are fun to make!

PS Just a note, if anyone is going to do this please be aware of the danger to your rear diff.

Another thing, if you're disabling ASR and want a big burnout; rumor is, if you back the car up nice and straight about 15-20 feet, it'll lock the differential. I haven't tried this, but will in the spring since my Michelins are pretty much dead-since they served me so well, I figure a big smokey sendoff is appropriate...

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"If God had meant for us to walk, why did he give us feet that fit car pedals?" Sir Sterling Moss

Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo