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M119 swap into an HFM M104 W202
Merry Xmass to all of u Members and friends here.
Guys thinking of swapping out my M104 36 engine for a 5.0 M119 from a w140 96 DIS. been driving my 95 W140 for a few months now and i like the v8 power, now that my C36 is back on the road i am seriously considering swapping in an M119. Few months back i found a complete W210 E50 M119 AMG front at the breakers. Dont know if it is still there for grabs but even if not a regular M119 will do fine with me. What i need to know is this: how compatible are HFM and LH if i am to go thru with the swap. I know 96 W140 M119 had DIS like my M104, what im worried abt is the instrument cluster and the AC compatibility. throw all ur ideas here pls
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Jay, ----------------- -1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;( -1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady) -1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman Twin turbo Kit). -1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen) -1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold) -1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold) http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed |
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I like V8 power,but love a fuel sipping 6 cylinder.My answer was a 150hp squirt of nitrous and gasoline.
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I am not sure about the LH and HFM. The a/c should work as long as it gets a engine rpm signal. Not the hardest thing to bypass. The I/C may or may not work. I think that it will most likely not work. LH clusters in 140 are very different from the later ones.
I know this is going to sound conservative but do not do it to the c36. There is not enough special about a 3.6 amg to justify the car instead of a regular 202 chassis and you will be destroying the car from a historical context. I know it probably will not be worth a hole bunch but you never know. Then you have the freedom to do what ever you want with a standard c220 or 230. Put the v8 in and standalone injection and whatever transmission you want. Custom Instruments that work. I am going to put a touch screen data logger in my old wagon for an instrument cluster. Put real brakes on it and go for it. |
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Whipplem brings up some good points.
Far be it from me to talk you out of an M119, but turbocharging an M119 will be more difficult than turbocharging an inline 6 will be. I guess you don't want to turbo the C36's 3.6 because of the thin cylinder walls so how about this instead: grab a C28 and turbo that! That will make for a quicker car than a 5.0 M119 powered C-class would be! The world just hasn't been right ever since you pulled the turbos off of Dima! Regards, Eric
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Hey guys my plugs turned blue so I'm running 100 shot,125 at track.Yes I went with 2 number down on plugs heat range.
I can't figure how to retard timing on the m104,to use a bigger shot.
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go for it!
we have got dozen of m119 swap car in our club http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2604/p3171531.jpg http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/rummynoset/190V81.jpg http://image.ohozaa.com/i/48c/p1100121.jpg Also we have got one m120 http://image.ohozaa.com/i/28d/MeyLD.jpg |
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oh sorry I just only show those pics to inspire him
didn't mean to show that there are cars in our club lol This is our club in Thailand BenzOwner.NET we even swap toyota 1UZ in also M120 It quiet hot here so you could notice that we take out the front ac fan replace our radiator with VOLVO760 radiator which a bit wider then we install 2 electric fans and replace our oem condenser with w210 condenser this system allow us to drive in the city with 85-90 temp http://61.19.252.22/benzowner.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38361&page=4 W124 with 1UZ...... - Page 28 - BenzOwner.NET ps.I guess with Google chrome u can read it |
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I might just sell the 36 and get a 43 and go for a 55 swap
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Jay, ----------------- -1995 Blue W202 C36 AMG (M) SOLD ;( -1995 Black W140 S500 (Lady) -1992 Black W124 E300 (Dima) (Ex-Mosselman Twin turbo Kit). -1988 Black W124 300 E 4-Matic.(Nadeen) -1983 Brown W126 500SEL.(Old Lady)(Sold) -1981 Gold W123 280CE.(Dareen)(Sold) http://www.youtube.com/user/jayrasheed |
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What's wrong with grabbing a 2.8 or 3.2 M104, throwing it in your C36, and turbocharging it? Sounds like a great plan to me!
Please don't mess with those M113s. They are seriously nappy, born during MB's bunk era! Regards, Eric
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89 300E "Benzer1" 15.924 Uncorrected 93 400E "Benzer3" 14.200 U.C. 95 E420 "Benzer4" 92 300E "Benzer5" 16.299 U.C. Future turbo CNG 87 300D "Benzer7" 87 300D "Benzer8" 87 300D "Benzer9" 87 300D/70 AMC Javelin "Sidewinder-Benzer" 87 300TD "Benzer11" 06 E320 CDI "Benzer12" 05 E320 CDI "Benzer12A" 71 AMC Javelin AMX 401 "Sidewinder" 74 AMC Hornet 401 "C.K.10" 13.63 U.C. 74 Bricklin SV1 "Presto" AMC 360 pwrd. |
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