Does anyone know where I can get replacement speakers for a '93 400E? (Mercedes OEM or otherwise.) I just bought this car, and they are both blown. They appear to be a weird size. Is the capacitor critical? Thanks - Mike

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Mike in Denver
'93 400E Now DEAD - Rear ended and totalled.
Replaced by '02 C32 AMG - FAST!

GR8 stuff at GR8 prices and pretty damn good support

Crutchfield can't help you (2 ohm system, which they don't sell parts for)...so, try various recyclers (ie Potomac) for used parts, or go the dealer route. What about PartsShop here??

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

I've heard from another 500e owner that Mark Levinson speakers are a ++++ upgrade vs. our OEM Bose speakers and are plug and play too

Can anyone verify this? How much dinero$$$?

-fad

OEM Bose in an E500? Didn't know they did that.

Aftermarket speakers are compatable with the '94 and newer non-Bose sytems only...Bose most often runs separate amps outboard at the speakers

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

...dealer told me that the speakers were Bose- - I'll take a look see to verify,..

-fad

Just a side note pertaining to Michael's comment. The factory stereo in the E420 (and I assume the 400E) is 4ohm not two 2 (like I know the 500e/E500 to be).

Mike400E should be fine souricng speakers from Crutchfield, unless the 400E's soundsystem changed in from 2 to 4 ohm in '94...

Regards,
- Ryan

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'95 E420 - 'Shadowfax' 138kmi.
'92 Volvo 740Turbo Bard 193kmi
'74 240D - 'Ol' Green' 4spd Manual 104kmi. (sold )
'77 300D - 'Red' 223kmi (sold)
'75 240D - 'Bianca the Blue Bomber' (sold)

Ryan/All:

My 2-ohm comments related to pre-'94 300E, 400E, 500E. When the nomenclature of these cars changed in 1994 (to E320, E420 & E500), so did their stereo systems, which became 4 ohm systems. Ryan, my 1992 500E is a 2 ohm system unquestionably, which is the exclusive reason I opted to replace the entire thing (at great time & expense)-if it were 4 ohm, I would have simply replaced all the speakers & added a sub.

FWIW, I just talked to my local MBZ dealer-NO Bose systems went into US-model 500Es or E500s.

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

Oh Ok, interesting Michael - thanks for the update. I'd heard in the past that the 500E/E500 had a different 'premium sound system' than the other W124's and assumed this meant is was the the 2ohm vs. 4 ohm setups.

From your comments then, sounds like audio systems was another that changed with the nomenclature/facelift of these cars. Good to know.

Regards,
- Ryan

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'95 E420 - 'Shadowfax' 138kmi.
'92 Volvo 740Turbo Bard 193kmi
'74 240D - 'Ol' Green' 4spd Manual 104kmi. (sold )
'77 300D - 'Red' 223kmi (sold)
'75 240D - 'Bianca the Blue Bomber' (sold)

Ryan,

My 1992 300D came optionally with an upgraded, "premium" sound system and is identical to the standard-issue 500E setup that was in my 1992 500E

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

My 93 300E (3.2 liter M104) also had a 2 ohm system.

I don't know if the speakers were Bose, but the amps were.

I ripped it out because the system sucks, and it doesn't work with any other head units or speakers.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

FAD-

Only thing the dealer could tell me is that the systems use a Becker head unit, and in the event you need to replace a speaker you need to advise what the P/N is on the actual speaker frame.

As I recall, the speakers that came out of my 500E had no name on them, but the amplifiers were assuredly Becker units (Paul S., are you sure about the BOSE amps? BOSE did not form any sort of relationship with MBZ until '95 or later; further, BOSE bits only work with BOSE bits, so if somehow BOSE amps were in your car, the speakers would have been too)

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo

Michael-

....did your dealer indicate the brand of speakers in '94 E500? (vs. Bose=no, answer)

I'm inclined to believe just from observing from the outside speaker setup in my '94 E320 Coupe and '94 E500 that they are probably share the same "brand"

...listening to the two systems though, the E500 appears generally superior (from a stereo non-anal non-expert type).

-fad

Yes, I'm sure that the factory amps in my '93 were bose amps from the factory.

I had the system removed and a new one installed by a shop that is a Bekker factory authorized shop and does most of the work for Mission Viejo Mercedes Benz.

I believe the insert in my owners manual speaks to this at well.

The car is at the dealer right now, and when I get the car back, I'll check.

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Paul S.

2001 E430, Bourdeaux Red, Oyster interior.
79,200 miles.

1973 280SE 4.5, 170,000 miles. 568 Signal Red, Black MB Tex. "The Red Baron".

Paul,

Please let us know-what you would seem to have is indeed unique and unprecedented, or at least no one I know in the business is aware of. Get a Part # if you can, okay?

Assuredly we don't want to be spreading inaccurate informaton

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Michael
2014 E63S Estate
2006 SLK55
1995 E500
1986 Porsche 944 turbo