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Old 07-24-2002, 03:16 PM
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Austin,

With 8.7:1 pistons, I think I'll be able to run 15-20 lbs of boost with a good intercooler and perhaps even water injection. I'm fabbing custom individual throttlebodies and am installing a completely programmable racing ECU (DTAFast E48), so I'll be able to tune it to perfection. I just want to size the turbo so that it'll spool fast. BTW, I'm 19 too and am a die hard DIY freak, as you can probably tell! I'll bet it could be classified as a bona fide psychological problem. I mean, what else would make me do the entire EVO II body conversion completely by myself . Man, I'm a nut. But, I've never started a project that I haven't finished successfully, and I'm not about to start now...

MB DOC: By the way, I checked the engine number and guess what I found! It's an 84 and the number is 10-000 176. That means that I have the 176th 16V engine ever made! I wonder if that's good or bad...

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Old 07-24-2002, 04:18 PM
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Dan,

I'd get even lower compression pistons than that if you want to run that much boost.

Right now I am actually working on a quad throttle body intake system for a 190E. Email me, Ill send you pics.

Austin
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Old 07-24-2002, 10:23 PM
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I am in the middle of doing the turbo upgrade on my 16v. I already have the turbo, wastegate, blow off valve, stand alone fuel management, and 65lb injectors....


I have fabricated a custom intake. I will post pics when complete. I was tig welding on it 20 minutes ago! I am going with a box design. Pics will follow...

BTW, the turbo is a TE44 with a .63 exhaust. With the 9.0 compression and stand alone fuel and ignition, I am planning to run 15 psi and get about 420 crank HP.
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Old 07-24-2002, 10:25 PM
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420 HP at the crank!

Incredible. Pure evil...
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Old 07-25-2002, 01:40 AM
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Benzmac! That's awesome! What have you done to the engine internals? What about the tranny/rear end? I'd love to have that much power, but I don't want to be constantly breaking things! The ever-pressing question is: how high can you go before things start to blow...

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Old 07-25-2002, 09:09 PM
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I guess I am going to find out where and what the break point is.
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Old 07-25-2002, 10:52 PM
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hehe. Unfortunately, I don't have the resources to be toying around near that point...Good luck!

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Old 07-26-2002, 12:25 AM
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I found the resources

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1845293405
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Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.
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Old 07-26-2002, 03:36 AM
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550HP Turbo 2.3L 16v 190e

http://www.mikkolaracing.com/auto.htm

Found this on a Finland racing site:

Ex-DTM 190e MB race car racing in a Finnish Road Racing series

550HP 2.3L turbo
top speed 163 mph
340mm Brembo brakes
Getrag Motorsport 5 speed
Sach Racing clutch.
Chromemoly chassis
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Old 07-26-2002, 08:24 AM
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BTW the thickness of a crushed head gasket is 1.75mm.
ONLY Goetze is OE on the head gsaket, if you buy an Elring set it will come with a Goetze gasket.
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Old 07-26-2002, 11:34 AM
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Thanks MB Doc!!
Are there any upgraded gaskets available? What should I do to handle to increased power? What about o-ringing the block?
Benzmac, what are you doing in this regard?

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Old 07-27-2002, 10:05 PM
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With my stand alone fuel and ignition management, I don't plan on blowing head gaskets often. I am using the factory part.
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