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Old 08-08-2002, 01:19 PM
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Talking New pics of my 500E!

Here you can find 70 new pics of my 1992 500E. I took them this afternoon.

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291516699

The car has 170.000km on it, was freshly painted in September 2001 and has the following mods:

- complete E500 look
- Everything painted in Almandine colour
- 18" (9.5" rear, 8.5" front) Brabus look-a-like wheels
- 285/35R81 and 245/40R18 Dunlop SP9000 tires
- 15mm wheelspacers front, 9mm wheelspacers rear
- Electric fan mod
- Rain sensor
- SmarTire tire pressure monitor
- Stereo install (see M-B 1972 280 SEL 4.5 - Dual Points Problem)
- Eberspacher Hydronic B5W stationary heating for in the winter
- ATIWE 3-spoke airbag steering wheel
- Geodesy radar detector
- Techart mobile phone console
- 6000K Xenon low beams
- 100W high beams

Here are a few sample pics:






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Old 08-08-2002, 02:15 PM
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What are those 2 hoses

NICE PICS!


Hey Flavio, what are those two hoses that run across your fuse box(on the driver side)and into the fire wall(?) in pics IMG_2309 & IMG_2310?
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Old 08-08-2002, 02:26 PM
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Damn I love the look of 18s on a 500E. It really balances out the car's aesthetics. Do you have the 500SL or SL600 front brakes? Oh, I'm sure you've answered this in another thread, but did you have to roll your fenders to fit the 285s in back? Also, how difficult is it to swap the front grille?
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Hey Flavio, what are those two hoses that run across your fuse box(on the driver side)and into the fire wall(?) in pics IMG_2309 & IMG_2310?
They are part of the Eberspacher Hydronic B5W stationary heating.

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Damn I love the look of 18s on a 500E. It really balances out the car's aesthetics. Do you have the 500SL or SL600 front brakes? Oh, I'm sure you've answered this in another thread, but did you have to roll your fenders to fit the 285s in back? Also, how difficult is it to swap the front grille?
My brakes are stock and because it's a 500E they are 500SL brakes I believe. I haven't found a need for anything bigger yet.

There was no need to roll the rear fenders to get the 285's to fit, it's a matter of choosing the right offset or in my case the right size wheelspacer.

I did not change the front grille myself, the previous owner did, but at close inspection it's not a very high quality piece. Remember the hood was also changed to an E500 hood.

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Old 08-08-2002, 03:43 PM
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Apparently Bekkers is a solid vendor for sourcing an avant garde W124 grille. www.bekkers.com
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Old 08-08-2002, 03:51 PM
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My brakes are stock and because it's a 500E they are 500SL brakes I believe. I haven't found a need for anything bigger yet.

There was no need to roll the rear fenders to get the 285's to fit, it's a matter of choosing the right offset or in my case the right size wheelspacer.

I did not change the front grille myself, the previous owner did, but at close inspection it's not a very high quality piece. Remember the hood was also changed to an E500 hood.

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Would a 285/35R18 fit on an 18x9.5ET35 in the rear without any spacers? In other words, did you need the 9mm spacer in back in order to clear the wheel, or was it just for the wider stance? Also, since the "proper" fitment is 275/35R18, isn't the overall diameter of your rear wheels slightly larger than that of your front? If so, did this cause any problems or mandate any adjustments to the speedometer/electronics?
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Apparently Bekkers is a solid vendor for sourcing an avant garde W124 grille. www.bekkers.com
I heard the same thing. It's on my "to do" list, but is the swap fully reversible? Is there a chance that the "tab" that pops out to release the hood latch would have to be cut or trimmed at all? I remember this was the case with aftermarket grilles for the CLK, and I was wary of making any permanent modifications.
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Old 08-08-2002, 03:55 PM
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Nice pics Flavio!!!!

Your car is gorgeous. Love the wheels.

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Would a 285/35R18 fit on an 18x9.5ET35 in the rear without any spacers? In other words, did you need the 9mm spacer in back in order to clear the wheel, or was it just for the wider stance? Also, since the "proper" fitment is 275/35R18, isn't the overall diameter of your rear wheels slightly larger than that of your front? If so, did this cause any problems or mandate any adjustments to the speedometer/electronics?
My wheels have a 35mm offset and the wheelspacers were only needed to widen the stance, not to clear the wheels.

285/35R18 is only 0,44% higher than the 225/55R16 so it's actually a slightly better fit than the 275/35R18 which is 0,64% smaller than a 225/55R16. Factory speedos always exaggerate so by choosing a slightly bigger wheel it gets more accurate.

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My wheels have a 35mm offset and the wheelspacers were only needed to widen the stance, not to clear the wheels.

285/35R18 is only 0,44% higher than the 225/55R16 so it's actually a slightly better fit than the 275/35R18 which is 0,64% smaller than a 225/55R16. Factory speedos always exaggerate so by choosing a slightly bigger wheel it gets more accurate.

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Thanks, Flavio, that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Did you ever look into a 295 series tire, or would that be pushing the limits of a 9.5" wide wheel? Anyway, I think I'll definitely opt for the 285 in the rear. The more traction, the better. Out of curiosity, how close of a match is the 245/40R18 to factory spec?
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Thanks, Flavio, that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. Did you ever look into a 295 series tire, or would that be pushing the limits of a 9.5" wide wheel? Anyway, I think I'll definitely opt for the 285 in the rear. The more traction, the better. Out of curiosity, how close of a match is the 245/40R18 to factory spec?
It's 0,11% smaller.

295 will be too much for a 9.5" wheel I think. If you want to go all out take a 11" or 12" wheel with 335/30R18 tire!

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It's 0,11% smaller.

295 will be too much for a 9.5" wheel I think. If you want to go all out take a 11" or 12" wheel with 335/30R18 tire!

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Haha, I don't even want to know how much Brabus would charge for a custom 11" rear wheel. Might have to go to Fikse or HRE for that. Well, bad news man. I just did some research, and the tires I want (Bridgestone S-03) aren't made in 285/35R18. However, I found some interesting information. 245/35R19 and 285/30R19 are EXACT matches (25.7 inches) for factory spec 225/55R16 and/or 245/45R17. Could this be sufficient justification to consider moving up to a 19" wheel? Perhaps...
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Haha, I don't even want to know how much Brabus would charge for a custom 11" rear wheel. Might have to go to Fikse or HRE for that. Well, bad news man. I just did some research, and the tires I want (Bridgestone S-03) aren't made in 285/35R18. However, I found some interesting information. 245/35R19 and 285/30R19 are EXACT matches (25.7 inches) for factory spec 225/55R16 and/or 245/45R17. Could this be sufficient justification to consider moving up to a 19" wheel? Perhaps...
If you still have the stock wheels I'd say go for the 19" wheels. When I bought my car it already had the 18" wheels and they were only a couple of months old so at that time I didn't want to spend a lot of money on 19" wheels. In my experience there is not too great a difference in ride comfort (or lack of) between 18" or 19" wheels. I suggest you look at some Carlsson wheels (www.carlsson.de), I had a set of 19" 1/6EVO's on one of my previous cars (a VW Passat) and I still think they are one of best looking wheels for a Mercedes. Not too flashy and they look huge!

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If you still have the stock wheels I'd say go for the 19" wheels. When I bought my car it already had the 18" wheels and they were only a couple of months old so at that time I didn't want to spend a lot of money on 19" wheels. In my experience there is not too great a difference in ride comfort (or lack of) between 18" or 19" wheels. I suggest you look at some Carlsson wheels (www.carlsson.de), I had a set of 19" 1/6EVO's on one of my previous cars (a VW Passat) and I still think they are one of best looking wheels for a Mercedes. Not too flashy and they look huge!

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Yes, sadly enough, I still have 16" wheels on there. But I may be purchasing wheels very soon, so I'm trying to finalize some decisions. I had 18" Carlsson 2/5 Brilliant Edition on my CLK, and I absolutely loved them. The 1/6 EVO is sweet (as is the 2/6 Brilliant), but I was looking for more of an open spoke wheel, which is why I'm strongly considering the Brabus Monoblock VI. I'm not worried about ride comfort so much as performance. I believe there is a measurable handling advantage between 17" and 18", but not so much between 18" and 19". I'm afraid the only added "feature" will be unsprung weight and a greater rotational moment of inertia. Both Carlsson and Brabus wheels are notoriously heavy. On the other hand, I often wondered whether I should've bitten the bullet and gone with 19" on the CLK (in retrospect, no, since I no longer have the car). Oh, and do you think 245/35R19 and 285/30R19 will fit without modifications? My car is not lowered.
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